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Unread 11-15-2008, 09:16 PM   #1
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'09 JK headlights are terrible!

I have many vehicles in the past and it seems that my new '09 JK lights are terrible. I haven't taken it out in the rain since this week and by golly, I could not see my light shined on the wet surface at all. I can see the light from other vehicles next to me. For goodness sake, it is 2009 model! My 03 Mazda has much better light in the rain.

Does anyone know if the OEM fog lights help!? My X does not come with them.

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Unread 11-15-2008, 09:19 PM   #2
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Fogs help, but do you think they may need some adjusting?
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Unread 11-15-2008, 09:24 PM   #3
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jeeps with weak lights! no way! i never thought id live to see the day!

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they shouldnt really suck though...
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Unread 11-15-2008, 09:32 PM   #4
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They suck on mine too. Thats why I put 5 HIDs on the bumper.
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Unread 11-15-2008, 09:51 PM   #5
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09 Headlights - The Newest Inductee.

Another new member of the "It's a Jeep Thing" club. Welcome!

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Unread 11-15-2008, 11:08 PM   #6
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I would say the lights on my JK are better than my '01 XJ, but that's not saying anything. I have never understood why an offroad purpose built vehicle doesn't come with the best possible lighting.
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Unread 11-15-2008, 11:41 PM   #7
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The headlights suck alright. I replaced them with Silverstar Ultras, and that's been an improvement. I find the factory fogs though very decent. Better than any other car/truck I previously had.

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Unread 11-16-2008, 06:36 AM   #8
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The lights suck- yes.

Most of my driving is in the city, so it doesn't bother me because the streets are already lit up really good- hell I could drive with no lights and not have a problem. But in the country its another story. Anytime I am in the country at night, I turn on the factory fogs, and they make a big difference since they are lighting up the area immediately in front of you really well.

Of course if I'm in the country an there are no other cars around, I flip on all my added lights
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Unread 11-16-2008, 06:55 AM   #9
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The lights in my JK are a lot better than the lights on my CJ !!!!
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Unread 11-16-2008, 07:21 AM   #10
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Mine were out of adjustment from the factory I adjusted them now they are better, Still wish I had factory fogs though because there is room for improvement. Im fairly new to the jeep thing but I get the "it's a jeep thing" because I also have a H-D.

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Unread 11-16-2008, 07:27 AM   #11
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Mine were out of adjustment from the factory I adjusted them now they are better,
same here....

I added PIAA 540 Extreme Whites on the windshield for the back roads and they help a lot....
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Unread 11-16-2008, 07:31 AM   #12
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The stock lights are Phillips standard H13 bulbs and have a nominal 1000 lumen output; if you aim them correctly, they work as well as any stock light will.
Phillips makes two bulbs with higher lumen output that they use as OE in Europe; that continent takes lighting much more seriously and sets a higher standard. I've put in the Phillips Visionplus (+50) bulbs and they are vastly superior with a nominal output of 1250 lumens. If you can find the Phillips Visionplus (+80), go for it; they whale on anything else in this category that is legal to use.
Bulbs to avoid are the very popular blue-tinted fake HID bulbs that most autoparts stores carry. They only appear to have more light because your eyes aren't able to focus blue light; this isn't good for a person who actually wants to see the road.
If you still want more light, supplemental lights are great. But read your local codes and use them correctly and responsibly or you'll get a ticket --- maybe even cause an accident.

Read this website and learn from it.
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...good/good.html
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Unread 11-16-2008, 08:09 AM   #13
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I am actually pleased with light when the low beams and fogs are on, but the brights really suck. I am thinking about getting the phillips X-treme bulbs.....I just can't find them anywhere.
http://www.lighting.philips.com/us_e...motive&lang=en
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Unread 11-16-2008, 08:15 AM   #14
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I have been meaning to aim mine down a bit too. I get hi-beamed now and then and based on where the light lays on the road I am in agreement with those doing the high beaming.

In fact that sounds like a good job for a Sunday.

I've seen worse. One of the F250 rigs where I work came from the factory with its headlights aimed up in the trees.
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Unread 11-16-2008, 10:45 AM   #15
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my 09 lights seem pretty weak too. Like someone said, low beams and fogs make it OK but not what I expected on a Jeep.
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