Hate people who think that adding a lift makes a yj a $7000 jeep
Just figured I'd start a thread of horror stories of people asking crazy money for a yj. Just today I emailed a guy with a 93 yj with the 2.5. It had a 4" rough country lift and a set of 33s. I asked him lowest he'd take. He says make me an offer so I said $2000 bucks. He goes um $6500 is the bottom number for me. I try to explain to him that no yj with a 2.5 is gonna bring that money unless it's made of gold. He goes with all the after market up grades this thing is amazing. So I ask what has he done to it. He tells me the lift a front bumper and side steps and "a bumping system" I'm like non of those things add real value. Then he tries to tell me that it's a top of the market lift kit. At this point I'm just dying so I say oh I didn't realize that a $450 lift was top of the line. And I then show him a picture of my baby and he goes look at that hunk of junk and I go my lift kit prolly cost me more then your jeeps worth. Stupid people.
Not a lift, but I went to see a 94 Sahara with 155,000 miles not long ago. The springs were practically inverted, the front right to the point that the front wrap had come off the bushing, some typical rust, and it had a plow.
I ask how much he wants and he says 5K. I ask if he's joking and he says the plow itself is worth 4K.
I say drop the plow and I'll give you 1500. He refused and said he'll never get the jeep off the property if he does that. I say WTH are you talking about? I'll give you money and then its gone! You live in the country. That plow would be outta here if it wasn't attatched to the jeep. But no sale. Oh well.
Stopped and looked at one on the side of the road the other day, I believe it was a 93 with a V-8 engine. Body was beat up, rusted up and it had about a 6" home made body lift of some kind on it with inverted springs. The dash was ripped out, the bezel for speed-o and RPM gauge was laying in the passenger seat but no gauges. Tires were gone, no tread and dry rot. No one was there so I thought I would call and see if cheap enough, use it for spare parts. They wanted 7k. Said the motor only have a few hundred miles on it since overhauled and installed. It was a lady on the phone and I just told her "Good Freakin Luck" and hung up.
Many people don't realize that with a YJ, the condition its in has more to do with the value than anything. Especially up here in the Rust Belt. And aftermarket mods tend to *drop* the value, or at least they won't add anything to it. Straight, original, and rust-free metal along with a clean interior and mechanically good is actually worth the most around here anyways. Mileage is rarely a factor.
True story: about 20 yrs ago, a buddy of mine built his dream Camaro. Full NASCAR cage and full NASCAR engine, with nitrous on top of that. 12-bolt rear, drag gears, custom frame and suspension... had about 45K into it. Its still one of the fastest cars around here. Broke his heart when it was only valued at 12K maximum...
Last edited by oldtime_ironman; 12-08-2011 at 07:48 PM..
I have to think he could get more at auction than its appraised for, but that's pretty risky. Man, that's rediculous.
I think he finally decided to keep it and restore it when he retires. He's kinda busy with family nowdays, so its sitting in a barn under a tarp. What a pity, the block alone was like $4500. chrome-moly crank was another $2500... the list goes on and on... ported aluminum reverse-flow heads, It was a lot of fun tho, 750 HP at the wheels 7500 RPM's it would actually keep up with the race bikes and eats ricers for breakfast
Last edited by oldtime_ironman; 12-08-2011 at 08:31 PM..
when I was in looking for a jeep a few years ago I couldn't tell you how many people I called to see what they wanted for there YJ's. there was so many of them for over $5k that should have never been over $3k. I came across this one that was a '94 that had a lift and 35 inch tires with a 4cyl with rust holes throughout the body and floor boards. The frame was the same way and the guy was asking $6400 because he just put the lift, tires, and brakes on the month before. I told him to have a good day. I saw that jeep sit there for almost a year.
I got lucky and bought mine from a friend as he was leaving the country. Things tend to be expensive over here so $3k was pretty good I thought, for here especially. 4 years later wtih only a 3/4in shackle lift and slightly larger tires and I get asked by some of the Arabs in Landcruisers if I am willing to sell it. I might ask the next one how much he is willing to pay just out of curiosity.
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