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Unread 07-26-2013, 09:07 AM   #1
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ZJ Steering on the TJ

I have been replacing all of the worn out stuff on the front of my 04TJ... which is basically everything. So far control arms and ball joints and want to take care of TRE's.... I wanted to go to the ZJ modification and have read quite a bit on it. I am getting my parts through the dealer (get a good discount).. Have the TJ drag link on order, just found out that the TRE that goes to the pitman arm is already the larger dia threaded portion. My current other tie rod has a threaded end on either side but I noticed that the 5.2L V8 (1998) tie rod has a fixed TRE on one side with an adjusting sleeve with a threaded TRE on the end..... I assuming this really doesn't matter that I would be changing things but just wanted to make sure

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Unread 07-26-2013, 10:11 AM   #2
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The new setup will work fine but you'll need the different adjuster sleeve if you didn't order one. If you only ordered the tie rod ends they do not come with one since it's not a wear part and they expect you already have one. They are pretty cheap at the parts store or you can grab one at the junkyard.
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I have been replacing all of the worn out stuff on the front of my 04TJ... which is basically everything. So far control arms and ball joints and want to take care of TRE's.... I wanted to go to the ZJ modification and have read quite a bit on it. I am getting my parts through the dealer (get a good discount).. Have the TJ drag link on order, just found out that the TRE that goes to the pitman arm is already the larger dia threaded portion. My current other tie rod has a threaded end on either side but I noticed that the 5.2L V8 (1998) tie rod has a fixed TRE on one side with an adjusting sleeve with a threaded TRE on the end..... I assuming this really doesn't matter that I would be changing things but just wanted to make sure
Shouldn't matter. If it's not too late for you, I understand the drag link is identical between the 2, however the ZJ draglink is priced lower than the TJ part.

I'm surprisingly pleased with my ZJ tie rod, running 33's fyi.

edit: good call on Mathew900 there, I forgot about that.
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Unread 07-26-2013, 10:15 AM   #4
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thanks... already have the TJ in hand.... was really making sure that the new setup of a fixed TRE with an adjuster sleeve and threaded TRE on the other will not matter when they do an alignment and adjust the toe. The current setup is both TRE's are threaded without an adjuster sleeve, but I guess in that case the entire tie rod is the adjuster sleeve!
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Unread 07-26-2013, 10:18 AM   #5
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while you guys are at it.... if I make the swap and can't get in for an alignment right away will things be ok as long as I make the lengths the same as the originals??
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I had my last alignment done at tire kingdom after upgrading to the ZJ tie rods and they did not question the setup. It's actually easier to adjust with the shorter ZJ sleeve.
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Unread 07-26-2013, 10:21 AM   #7
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good info.... thanks for the feedback.
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Unread 07-26-2013, 10:26 AM   #8
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I would get the length as close as you can then use these instructions:

http://www.stu-offroad.com/steering/align/align-1.htm

For my friends with trail rigs this is all we do. I do this first then have the shop check it because mine's also my daily driver.
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yeh that self alignment procedure is plenty good and very easy to do, I need to get mine lasered to double-check thrust and caster and stuff...but if your jeep was already setup, and you're just changing the tie rod, that toe alignment should set you up just fine. imo.
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Unread 07-31-2013, 07:48 AM   #10
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Good thing I found this thread. I am looking at doing this swap myself sine a couple of my TRE's are leaking (read the boots are ripped). According to Autozone the drag links are different. I am sure they fit but (based on pictures) the steering stabilizer and tie rod holes are at a different angle.

Luckily my drag link TRE is the one that is not leaking seeing that that is the most expensive part of the setup.
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