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Unread 12-25-2009, 11:15 AM   #1
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Wife said "OK", but convinced that Lifting the TJ is opening a can of worms?!

Thanks for Reading.

I have a 00' TJ stock. I've been wanting that "real truck" look since I was a kid...finally got the clearance from the wife and have about 3500 to spend.

I thought I knew what I wanted (a big bad beefy truck that is tough to get up into and has that burly suspension look with some gigantic tires) and started looking into lift and wheel options...only to find that...if you replace this...you must repalce that..and so on...

Initially...I wa going for "just looks" but it became apparent quickly that looks alone = waste of $$$ and chepa products.

This truck will be on the road 90% of the time...but with the upgrades that I"m looking for...I know I will get this thing otr a lot more.

So here's my questions...like all other newbs posts I've read:

*I have 3500 and want to "do it right"
*I have a mechanic friend who is loaning his time and is excited to do the job
*I don't think going from 31's to 33's is worth the 3500 nor will make me happy
*I think 35's is where I need to be and I want the truck to sit high...ride well..LAST...and be capable
*I don't want a lift that needs to be "fixed" every month (can of worms)
*the RC short arm seemed great but I've read only bad things (ride wise)
*The long arm kit seems the best option (why did the price just go up 1500?)
*The sye and cv are a must (no problem)...but anything else I'll need
*is RC a quality name or is RE better (worth the larger price tag)
*It seems a kit with shocks is a 'no-no' so I have no problem buying others...but what


The deeper I get into this..I think I've found everything...and then read that it is garbage...the price tag keeps going up...I have to do this all in one crack (due to my friends schedule) and the wife won't take kindly to sporatic 1000 purchases.

I would rather come up with 5k or even 6k to do it right...but RIGHT seems impossible to find!?

Any thoughts?

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Unread 12-25-2009, 11:25 AM   #2
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First, a big welcome to Jeep Forum and a very Merry Christmas. I'd start this off for you after approving your first post but the wife just called me down for breakfast.

By the time I get back here later today, I'm betting you'll have a ton of good suggestions.
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Unread 12-25-2009, 11:33 AM   #3
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Merry X-Mas to all! Thanks for the welcome (didn't think anyone would be on here over the holidays)...sounds great. Looking forward to getting started.
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Unread 12-25-2009, 11:36 AM   #4
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Well I will be the first...

If you just do a simple lift and tire/wheel combo installed by anyone with a IQ higher than rock you should be fine.

I wouldn't go with RC as.....they suck. Everyone I know has had nothing but problems with their stuff.

If I were you Id probably go with some 33's. and a 4 inch lift. You dont necessarily need a long arm. If you buy something decent it will ride good like it should. Now If your looking for some flex then go with a long arm.

Just check out 4wheelparts.com

if you go with 35's your mileage will be affected more and you might want to change your ring and pinion if you go with them. Some people dont mind the stock ratio with 35's but others think different. 35's Aslo put more stress on the drivetrain and can cause broken driveline parts.

If your set on 35's and its a daily driver Id at least change the ratio's to something a little better.

If you dont go higher than 4 inches of suspension lift you wont have to get a SYE

What do you mean a kit with shocks is a no-no?
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Unread 12-25-2009, 11:36 AM   #5
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Merry X-Mas to all! Thanks for the welcome (didn't think anyone would be on here over the holidays)...sounds great. Looking forward to getting started.
Welcome JDurkin. Lol people are on here at all times. Its an addiction, I recommend you just delete your account so you aren't forced to spend every second of your day checking JF posts.
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Unread 12-25-2009, 11:37 AM   #6
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Sell the 00 Tj, and use the 3500 to get into a TJ with 10k worth of mods for @ 10-12k.

Examples:

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f153/...ly-47k-927586/
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f153/...35-mtr-932442/
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f153/...angler-929590/
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f153/2001-tj-928159/
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f153/...ed-35s-923245/

This way you can end up with stuff that you would not be able to get into without freaking out the wife; like gearing, lockers, winches, bumpers...

The economy is tough and guys are being forced to sell their prized rigs to pay bills and get by.

Cheers, Mike

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Unread 12-25-2009, 11:37 AM   #7
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I only have one comment; $3500 to run 35's the way you want to do it is gonna be tough.
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Unread 12-25-2009, 11:37 AM   #8
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*I have 3500 and want to "do it right"
DO IT RIGHT!

*I have a mechanic friend who is loaning his time and is excited to do the job
Make sure he does it right, and if i were you, try and do some yourself. It's a great learning adventure :-p

*I don't think going from 31's to 33's is worth the 3500 nor will make me happy
I have 33's and they do fine, but if you have the money, go 35's. Problem is, you probably won't :-(

*I think 35's is where I need to be and I want the truck to sit high...ride well..LAST...and be capable
If you want it to last on 35's, you will have to consider other things like chromoly axle shafts, Trac bar, Tie rod, stuff like that.

*I don't want a lift that needs to be "fixed" every month (can of worms)
Why did you buy a Jeep then? :-p

*the RC short arm seemed great but I've read only bad things (ride wise)
Ehh... That's what I have and I like the ride and quality of the springs and the 2.2 shocks... but you might want to look into better control arms if you go short arm

*The long arm kit seems the best option (why did the price just go up 1500?)
Long arm = Expensive, but very well worth it if you can afford it. NEVER go cheap with a long arm kit.

*The sye and cv are a must (no problem)...but anything else I'll need
Depends on how high you go.

*is RC a quality name or is RE better (worth the larger price tag)
Like I said, I like my kit, but if you can afford it go RE

*It seems a kit with shocks is a 'no-no' so I have no problem buying others...but what
Who told you that? If you go with RE, you won't have to worry.

Sorry for having to re-post, I hit the enter key by mistake.

This isn't very "in detail." If you want I can PM you with a bunch of stats
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Unread 12-25-2009, 11:40 AM   #9
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Well first off do you want long or short arms? Both can be good if done right. The max i would do with short arms is a re 4.5". Thats a good setup to run 35's. Also you are going to want to look into gears and brakes if you want 35's. For the brakes eaither vanco or ebc yellow pads and centric rotors. For gears well that depends on the trans. What trans do you have? If it's going to be a mall crawler you could get away with out upgrading the steering as long as its all in good shape and tight. As for re vs rc they both have there + and - but i dont think you could go wrong with one of them. There are other good lifts like tnt and clayton but for a street jeep thats may be over kill. IMO
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Unread 12-25-2009, 11:40 AM   #10
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Unread 12-25-2009, 11:41 AM   #11
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I only have one comment; $3500 to run 35's the way you want to do it is gonna be tough.
x2 maybe with a little more than 3500.
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Unread 12-25-2009, 11:42 AM   #12
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Rough Country lift 4", JKS 1.25 Body Lift, TNT fender Flares, 35's, Brake upgrade, regear if you need too.
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Unread 12-25-2009, 11:44 AM   #13
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First thing I would do if I were you is check what rear axle you have, Dana 35 or Dana 44. I began with a 3" lift and 33s and my first unexpected upgrade was replacing the broken Dana 35 with a 44. I now am at 5 years later with 4" still on a short arm kit and 35" tires, pretty satisfied. but in the back of my mind I am still planning for a long arm install.
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Unread 12-25-2009, 11:44 AM   #14
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If you dont go higher than 4 inches of suspension lift you wont have to get a SYE
That's up to god and the jeep. My 4" lift needed a SYE and a MML to get rid of the vibes. But I have a NV3550 and a D44 so my rear DS is pretty short.
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Unread 12-25-2009, 11:49 AM   #15
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Building for 33s is alot cheaper than 35s.

A good setup on 33s, that rides, flexes and looks good will run about 3500.

You will need about 1500 for wheels and tires. You can get a RE 3.5" lift for 1500 shipped. Then a SYE. If you have a dana 35 you will also need axleshafts.

You could use whatever you have left for a bumper and a cheap, Jerry Look away, smittybilt winch.

That will give you a badass look.


Read nevermondays write-up for 35s. You will need a bigger lift, tire prices go up a little. You need to look at regearring thats 1k alone iif you have a shop do it. Steering and brake upgrades, axleshaft upgrades, and a new rearend if you have the dana 35.

For the cost of doing 35s "right" you would be better off just going to 37s.
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