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Unread 02-04-2008, 06:30 PM   #1
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What makes a rubicon a rubicon?

Stupid question I know. other than the obvious things. wheels,tires, badging, the front rear d44's with lockers. what makes the rubicon a rubicon. is that all??. I have heard things like not needing a SYE and CV driveshaft when lifting one. I'm pretty much sold on getting a rubicon at this point. my 97 se is just getting old and I can afford something better. I've looked at other cars. Mitsubishi EVO subaru STI dodge Ram cummins diesel or a half ton. and honestly I see myself getting sick of those after some time. i don't ever see myself not liking a jeep. so I'm set on the jeep. also what's a fair price for a 06 rubicon with 10k miles. the prices i'm seeing are around 19k. which isn't bad but if i could get it for like 15k and then sell my jeep for 4-5k i'd be sitting pretty with 10k in debt. which isn't bad at all to drive a new rubi lol.

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As you mentiond, the MTR tires, D44s front and rear with lockers, it also has:

4.10 gears (vs the 3.73s in the non-Rubi D44)
Gear driven LSD vs clutch based LSDs in non-Rubis
A heavier duty Tcase with 4:1 instead of 2.73:1
No slip yoke on the Tcase output (so no SYE required, it does not have a CV driveshaft)
Rocker guards (not as good as aftermarket, but better than none).
Flares are 1" wider

Because it doesnt have the slip yoke on the Tcase output shaft, it can get away with small lifts (2.5" or so) without needing the CV driveshafts that cause the non-Rubis to convert to an SYE.
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Unread 02-04-2008, 06:37 PM   #3
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Transfer case 4:1 and a bit beefier. You pretty much covered it. If you can get it for 15K jump on it!
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The D44 has a limited slip in the rear in addition to the locker. 4 wheel disc brakes. The 4:1 rock-trac transfer case which also does away with the slip-yoke. Rocker guards. Higher rate springs in most applications.
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Well, you get, like you said, front and rear D44's with air lockers, "trac-lok" in the rear (when air locker is not enabled), and also, 4.10 gears front and rear, 4 to 1 low range ratio, 4 wheel disc brakes, and I think that's about it.
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Don't be confused- the rubicon does not have a trac-lok in the back- the traclok uses clutch packs the rubicons use a gear based limited slip.
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everybody always fotgets the 1330 u joints on the driveshafts
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Unread 02-04-2008, 07:23 PM   #9
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awesome I see. that no SYE needed is a huge selling point. I don't plan on going huge maybe a RE 3.5 SF at some time. i'm looking at a blue 06 rubicon with 10k on it. asking price is 19,900. looks like it's in good shape the interior pictures looked kinda ehh. looked a bit dirty. we'll see. i'm gonna take a look in person and test drive it since i've never driven a 4.0L or a rubi. see what I think. if the interior is in good shape and the exterior looks good i'm gonna try my hardest to buy it. my budget is 20kish. so if i can get it for less then more power to me lol.
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Look around deals can be had- you just have to be fast and wait for one. Look for a hardtop- if you want one.
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right now i'm looking to start with a soft top and full doors. down the line i'll buy a hardtop and then half doors so I have it all. but for now since I wont' be buying a hard top anytime soon i want the softy
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a soft top is alot cheaper than a hard top if you want a hard top get it now. 400 is alot better than 2000.
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well the Rubicon is a river in Italy. Its 46 miles long: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubicon

its also an off-road trail in California: http://www.4x4now.com/trcar.htm
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As you mentiond, the MTR tires, D44s front and rear with lockers, it also has:

4.10 gears (vs the 3.73s in the non-Rubi D44)
Gear driven LSD vs clutch based LSDs in non-Rubis
A heavier duty Tcase with 4:1 instead of 2.73:1
No slip yoke on the Tcase output (so no SYE required, it does not have a CV driveshaft)
Rocker guards (not as good as aftermarket, but better than none).
Flares are 1" wider

Because it doesnt have the slip yoke on the Tcase output shaft, it can get away with small lifts (2.5" or so) without needing the CV driveshafts that cause the non-Rubis to convert to an SYE.
they also have a really neat decal that says "Rubicon" on the hood....SWEET!
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they also have a really neat decal that says "Rubicon" on the hood....SWEET!

PHEWWWW,,,, can't forget that....LOL. Good luck with your shopping!!
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