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Unread 04-15-2014, 08:21 AM   #31
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I guess RE is 3rd place after MC and Currie when it comes to front track bars.
JKS is definitely ahead of RE as well.

RE doesn't get much play because it doesn't clear very well compared to the others, uses a more unreliable heim end, and much thinner walled tube.

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JKS is definitely ahead of RE as well. RE doesn't get much play because it doesn't clear very well compared to the others, uses a more unreliable heim end, and much thinner walled tube.
And if you use the RE hd track bar with the super flex joint the clearance is that much worse.
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JKS is definitely ahead of RE as well. RE doesn't get much play because it doesn't clear very well compared to the others, uses a more unreliable heim end, and much thinner walled tube.
Are you sure about the clearance thing? I think it is even mentioned in the long trackbar thread that it has as much clearance as Curries? MC uses a heim, Seems like the more I read, the more I see people preferring Heims, even over Johnny Joints.
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Are you sure about the clearance thing? I think it is even mentioned in the long trackbar thread that it has as much clearance as Curries? MC uses a heim, Seems like the more I read, the more I see people preferring Heims, even over Johnny Joints.
MC uses a higher quality heim than RE. There's a big difference, at least from what I've read and seen. The big question is the reliability of the MC heim.

on the reliability front, the Currie JJ wins right now...there's a whole lot more years of data to look at. Similarly, the RE heim has proven junky...plenty of years to demonstrate that too. Last year I helped a buddy pull his RE bar off his XJ and install a JKS HD (5/8" bolt)...RE heim was trashed.
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MC uses a higher quality heim than RE. There's a big difference, at least from what I've read and seen. The big question is the reliability of the MC heim. on the reliability front, the Currie JJ wins right now...there's a whole lot more years of data to look at. Similarly, the RE heim has proven junky...plenty of years to demonstrate that too. Last year I helped a buddy pull his RE bar off his XJ and install a JKS HD (5/8" bolt)...RE heim was trashed.
How about the clearance thing? Doesn't the long trackbar thread say that the RE bar has as much clearance as the currie bar?

Yeah, my first RE rod end lasted about 6-7 years, this second one only lasted 3-4, could use some improvement there. Would hope the MC one is of equal or better quality. Don't know for sure, never seen any literature on it.
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Last year I helped a buddy pull his RE bar off his XJ and install a JKS HD (5/8" bolt)...RE heim was trashed.
Are there any other differences outside of the larger bolt? I looked at the website and couldn't decipher the differences other than a larger bolt and maybe poly bushing at the axle mount?

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How about the clearance thing? Doesn't the long trackbar thread say that the RE bar has as much clearance as the currie bar? Yeah, my first RE rod end lasted about 6-7 years, this second one only lasted 3-4, could use some improvement there. Would hope the MC one is of equal or better quality. Don't know for sure, never seen any literature on it.
That would depend on the setup and the diff cover used. The currie bends away from the cover while the re goes right over it.

In a low lift situation requiring less than 2" of bumpstop extension to meet all other clearance parameters the jks 126 with a v8 zj tie rod is my first choice in aftermarket track bars under 3" of lift. At about 3" the metal cloak gets the win if the lesser than 2" bumpstop extension to meet other parameters still holds.
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Are there any other differences outside of the larger bolt? I looked at the website and couldn't decipher the differences other than a larger bolt and maybe poly bushing at the axle mount?
the poly bushing is one difference. I prefer the stock Clevite two stage bushing.

the other difference between the various JKS bars is where the tube is welded on in relation to the joint, so that at full droop you avoid maxing out the misalignment capabilities of the joint. the bends may be different at higher lift height specs, i don't know.

you theoretically want the joint in a neutral orientation at ride height, assuming you have equal uptravel & downtravel....or at least have it neutral at the 50/50 point of the suspension travel, and not max it out misalignment at full droop.

this is the downside to single shear in the front track bar mount, you can run out of travel at the frame end....depending on shock lengths

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In a low lift situation requiring less than 2" of bumpstop extension to meet all other clearance parameters the jks 126 with a v8 zj tie rod is my first choice in aftermarket track bars under 3" of lift. At about 3" the metal cloak gets the win if the lesser than 2" bumpstop extension to meet other parameters still holds.
x2...JKS #126 with V8 ZJ tie-rod up to about 3" of lift, when requiring very little bumpstop extension. MC/Currie above that, when 2"-2.5" bumpstop extensions become necessary. People have made the Currie stuff work with less bump tho, just takes some detailed work with axle position. MC works down to nearly 0" bumpstop extension with the stock diff cover and tie-rod, but the adjustment range is limited, and its designed to center the axle in the 3.5-4" lift range.

and honestly, if you have a 0-2" lift there is really not much reason to use an adjustable front track bar. just stick with stock and either modify it to center the axle or just live with it off-center.
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The real question should be did the RC bracket require drilling out the taper, or did RC utilize a smaller bolt at the bottom and the second thru the side? The op would be fine with just getting a stock replacement if the taper is still there.
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