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Unread 08-26-2012, 11:06 PM   #73081
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I have a HEAVY MODIFIED winch on the front, a beefed up 8274. and it is my main self recovery or rescue winch.

the M6000 warn on the rear is for those Oh Sh.t moments. i looked at all winches, and decided on the short drum m6000 and here is why.

M6000 pulls
6.000 1 wrap
5.400 2
5.000 3
4 600 4

The M6000 short drum takes up little room, weighs 45.pounds and the little bugger is pretty fast at 10 ft per min full load pull. 50 ft of line is more then enough around the parts i wheel at for a self recovery. and i carry extensions for my main winch for those just incase times.

the M8000 at 50ft of line out pulls just over 6.000 and to get 8.000 you need to have all 100 ft of line less a few wraps to get that pull. and at max pull get around 8 ft per min with a 74 pound foot print. Over the many years i have been wheeling i bet 95 percent of my winch pulls i have used less then 50 ft of line and have only really used all the line when pulling with a snatch block.So most recoverys are using between 3,000 to 6.000 pounds of winching power.

I am not sure how much winching you have done, but i bet 90 plus percent is to the first anchour point you can get to. you may have a 8.000 pound winch but if your hooked to a rig or tree 40 ft out. your not getting 8.000 pull.

and if i am not ever happy with the m6000, a motor or gear change and it's upgraded.


most rear self recovery just needs a tug to get out of a hole you drop into or other some what nasty problem. when one changes ones mind on a line. Some times you just need small tug to get moving again.
Well if it works for you, then good for you. I can tell you that that 8274 is a hoss and can pull you across mountains, so I imagine that M6000 won't get much use anyways.

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Unread 08-26-2012, 11:13 PM   #73082
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Dude your Jeep looks like a bad *** hunting/rescue/expidition vehicle. I wouldn't go that route with mine but you get all my respect. Nice ride!!

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Thanks, it's suits my needs just right! my DD and wheeler does more rescues and DD then wheeling these days, been so busy with work!
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Unread 08-26-2012, 11:14 PM   #73083
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Did the skid rust repairs today..came out good..and took care of other rust aswell
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Unread 08-26-2012, 11:16 PM   #73084
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Originally Posted by loaderopp

I have a HEAVY MODIFIED winch on the front, a beefed up 8274. and it is my main self recovery or rescue winch.

the M6000 warn on the rear is for those Oh Sh.t moments. i looked at all winches, and decided on the short drum m6000 and here is why.

M6000 pulls
6.000 1 wrap
5.400 2
5.000 3
4 600 4

The M6000 short drum takes up little room, weighs 45.pounds and the little bugger is pretty fast at 10 ft per min full load pull. 50 ft of line is more then enough around the parts i wheel at for a self recovery. and i carry extensions for my main winch for those just incase times.

the M8000 at 50ft of line out pulls just over 6.000 and to get 8.000 you need to have all 100 ft of line less a few wraps to get that pull. and at max pull get around 8 ft per min with a 74 pound foot print. Over the many years i have been wheeling i bet 95 percent of my winch pulls i have used less then 50 ft of line and have only really used all the line when pulling with a snatch block.So most recoverys are using between 3,000 to 6.000 pounds of winching power.

I am not sure how much winching you have done, but i bet 90 plus percent is to the first anchour point you can get to. you may have a 8.000 pound winch but if your hooked to a rig or tree 40 ft out. your not getting 8.000 pull.

and if i am not ever happy with the m6000, a motor or gear change and it's upgraded.

most rear self recovery just needs a tug to get out of a hole you drop into or other some what nasty problem. when one changes ones mind on a line. Some times you just need small tug to get moving again.
Care to share the mods? Just picked up an 8274 myself
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Unread 08-26-2012, 11:30 PM   #73085
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took a photo of my tj and GF's new 2012 JK
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Unread 08-26-2012, 11:30 PM   #73086
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Did the skid rust repairs today..came out good..and took care of other rust aswell
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Unread 08-27-2012, 04:11 AM   #73087
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That is what a jeep is all about. Camping is not the mall, it is not the city streets choked in traffic. Get back to nature with limited distraction and let your jeep take you there. Look around with eyes unclouded by the daily distractions. Heading to harpers ferry in October with wife, kid, dog, and jeep. Any trails I should check out around there?
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Unread 08-27-2012, 06:32 AM   #73088
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So I installed a Teraflex SYE, TW Drive Shaft, Currie rear UCAs and Currie Rear adjustable Track bar with Rock Jock bracket this weekend. It's all together and boy does it make a difference.
Here are some lessons learned:
1. If you have a Zone 3" lift, I think you can get away without the rear track bar and bracket. The pinion angle changes but I don't think it is enough to require the angled bracket. The bracket they provide should suffice. I ended up installing it as I didn't want to go through the hassle of sending it back plus I had already mounted the bracket before I had adjusted the pinion angle. Plus it was the original track bar anyways and could use the replacement.
2. Make sure to verify the JJ will fit in the bracket before mounting it. I didn't and I think the bracket was a smidge too narrow for the JJ. I ended up using a pry bar to get it in. Would have been a lot easier off the jeep
3. Not only have a good pair of Snap Ring pliers. Have a good pair of Lock Ring pliers. The snap ring is really only needed for taking off the snap ring that holds the gears onto the old drive shaft. The lock ring pliers are used 4 times (and I HATE lock rings now!!)
4. The Teraflex instructions are lacking/wrong in three spots:
- You need a 12 point 5/16" socket for the bolts that come with the SYE. The bolts that came with TW drive shaft worked
but they are 11mm and you cannot torque them cause you can't get a socket onto them properly. So you have to use a
wrench to get them on and it gets really tight once you hit the bottom
- no mention of lock ring pliers (grrr)
- Step 11 mentions needing 15mm socket to remove the rear output housing. You need a 13mm (obvious typo).
5. Definitely confirm all the parts are there before starting. I noticed on the Currie rear track bar that the instructions mentioned a greasable bolt. There was none to be seen and also the bolt for the frame side was too big for it. I ended up using the original bolt that I had there for the frame and the non-greasable for the axle. Contacted Gerry from Savvy to let him know and am waiting a response (which shouldn't be long once the left coast wakes up.
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Unread 08-27-2012, 06:49 AM   #73089
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Those Fila P.o.S.'s? I'd rather walk on nails. I love how they are too cheap to add the 5th toe...
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Unread 08-27-2012, 07:08 AM   #73090
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Thanks, it's suits my needs just right! my DD and wheeler does more rescues and DD then wheeling these days, been so busy with work!
I agree, you rig looks BA, but where did you get the diamond plate cover behind the front seats? Looks awesome
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Unread 08-27-2012, 07:11 AM   #73091
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Refilled the trans case, rebuilt the parking brake on the 8.8 to pass inspection, welded my read UCA's brackets back onto the frame.
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Unread 08-27-2012, 07:12 AM   #73092
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Replaced my original Mopar battery, which could niner longer crank my jeep.

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Swapped in one of these...

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And....dumped the RP synthetic with 7k miles on it and put 6 fresh quarts RP HPS 10w30. The HPS has a high zinc/phosph porous content - something like 1400ppm.

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Unread 08-27-2012, 07:39 AM   #73093
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Jeep can't hide from the rain in le' garage any longer. Top & doors are going back on this morning. Thanks Isaac. Has anyone put a seal on the rear window bar? The exterior side of it to close against the tailgate? I might try to find a seal. Some rain came in when Beryl & Debbie blew over.
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Unread 08-27-2012, 09:04 AM   #73094
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Jeep can't hide from the rain in le' garage any longer. Top & doors are going back on this morning. Thanks Isaac. Has anyone put a seal on the rear window bar? The exterior side of it to close against the tailgate? I might try to find a seal. Some rain came in when Beryl & Debbie blew over.
I've had to piddle with that, yes, rubber side makes direct contact with the tailgate. The idea is that the tailgate pushes against that and makes a seal under the canvas. Since I re-did mine, it has not leaked at all but one side of the stitching on the canvas tabs is coming un-done.
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Unread 08-27-2012, 09:58 AM   #73095
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I've had to piddle with that, yes, rubber side makes direct contact with the tailgate. The idea is that the tailgate pushes against that and makes a seal under the canvas. Since I re-did mine, it has not leaked at all but one side of the stitching on the canvas tabs is coming un-done.
Yeah, I just need to find a roll of sticky seal in the garage somewhere.

Now that I've got the top, windows and doors on, the rain has stopped and the sun is shining. That's my life.

After I got everything buttoned up, I usually throw a folded up heavy duty moving blanket in the tub where the back seat goes. Cut's down on noise and heat. Well, i got a little overzealous while flinging the blanket in there this morning and the aforementioned rear window bar bit me right on top of my skull. I've got a pretty high threshold for pain, but man did that hurt. I was looking for blood.
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