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Unread 02-02-2008, 04:44 PM   #1
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vw diesel conversion kit for samurai, jeep?

I was watching last week's extreme 4x4 and they had put in a vw diesel into a Samurai complements of a conversion kit, Does anyone know of similar conversions kits for the tj?

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Unread 02-02-2008, 04:48 PM   #2
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No I dont.
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Unread 02-02-2008, 05:50 PM   #3
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VW's engine offerings are to weak for a TJ
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Unread 02-02-2008, 06:26 PM   #4
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VW's engine offerings are to weak for a TJ
I don't think so. Anything can be made to work.

To the op I would go to extreme 4x4's web site (www.powerblocktv.com) I think.

Check out the company that made the conversion and call them, If they don't make it they might know who does. Low gears don't work well in diesel conversions because they do not allow the turbo to spool correctly so 3:73 with 35" tires works well but 4:56's will not allow power from the turbo.
I would also plane on loosing the rear seat to a fuel cell. (food for thought)

Let us know if you do this.
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Unread 02-02-2008, 06:31 PM   #5
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I don't think so. Anything can be made to work.
yes it could be made to work. BUT the VW 1.9 would be worse than a TJ 2.5 for lack of performance. Look at the KJ it has a 2.8 diesel. Most commonly the Cummins 4BT, either 3.3 or 3.9 are used in TJ diesel conversions. I'd like to use the KJ CRD if I could find one reasonably. The TJ in trail trim is about twice the weight of a Sammy.
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Unread 02-02-2008, 06:40 PM   #6
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yes it could be made to work. BUT the VW 1.9 would be worse than a TJ 2.5 for lack of performance. Look at the KJ it has a 2.8 diesel. Most commonly the Cummins 4BT, either 3.3 or 3.9 are used in TJ diesel conversions. I'd like to use the KJ CRD if I could find one reasonably. The TJ in trail trim is about twice the weight of a Sammy.

I too would not use this motor but I wanted to point out that it would work i.e. twin turbos heavy injectors propane? Not exactly my Idea of making a worthwhile swap but it could work.

Anybody that is looking into making a step like this has or will weigh the pro's and the cons and will have to determine if they want to spend the dough for a VW diesel motor or a cummins???????

Good points.......Thanks.
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Unread 02-02-2008, 08:42 PM   #8
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nice!!

I can see it doing well in the low ranges and reasonably well on the highway. What's the truck weigh? 3000?
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i've been tossing around the idea of a diesel and looked at almost every option out there. in my opinion, with the weight of the TJ, i dont think anything under 3.0 liters would be worth while. like the guy above said, the cummins would be a better idea because it's got the brute strength that the 1.9 doesnt. like the old saying goes, theres no replacement for displacement...

this guy did the 3.9: http://web.mac.com/my96z28ss/iWeb/Jeep/Welcome.html
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Unread 02-02-2008, 09:48 PM   #10
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Unread 03-28-2008, 04:29 PM   #11
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im confused

arent the vw engines.......for lack of the correct term transverse or set sideways because of front wheel drive? is it still possible to mate it up?
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Unread 03-28-2008, 04:56 PM   #12
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installing a VW engine in a TJ would be an utterly complete waste of time and money! What will you gain? Surely not HP, surely not MPG as you'll need to have that thing floored to go anywhere.

Now if you were to install the diesel out of a Liberty ... that's a whole nother story
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Unread 03-28-2008, 05:02 PM   #13
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arent the vw engines.......for lack of the correct term transverse or set sideways because of front wheel drive? is it still possible to mate it up?
The "end" of the engine (one end of the crank) is still where it mates up, even in a transverse layout. There's many engines that are used in both, depending on the vehicle it's put in. Just need different axhaust setup and usually a different intake manifold.
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Unread 03-28-2008, 05:14 PM   #14
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Just need different axhaust setup and usually a different intake manifold.
Something like this:
To convert a VW engine gas or diesel to longitudinal from transverse. You'll need to make mounts. Depending on hood clearance everything else should fit.
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installing a VW engine in a TJ would be an utterly complete waste of time and money! What will you gain? Surely not HP, surely not MPG as you'll need to have that thing floored to go anywhere.

Now if you were to install the diesel out of a Liberty ... that's a whole nother story
You obviously have never driven one of these... 310 horsepower, 553 lbs-ft torque, 0-60mph in about 6 sec, and still get over 20 mpg


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