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Unread 06-09-2009, 06:40 PM   #76
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That Rubi Crawler thing is cool....oh wait, won't work with my 32rh

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Unread 06-09-2009, 06:53 PM   #77
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That Rubi Crawler thing is cool....oh wait, won't work with my 32rh
you can get a Klune

a D300 + Klune will fit in a TJ. So should an Atlas + Klune. A supershort NP231 SYE + Klune may fit too.
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Unread 06-09-2009, 07:47 PM   #78
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the front lower arms hang up on the shock pad mounts, the rear also hang up on the top of the axle mount with stock ca's. most round aftermarket arms clear both...

you can clearance both...

my rancho arms only hit the fronts with 26" shocks... I raised the rear lower mounts, so I clearanced them..







sorry about the small photo, took me a while to find it. must be why it wasn't in the apropriate album..

I run hard, it yank'd the mount off the axle from pounding on it...
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Unread 06-09-2009, 07:56 PM   #79
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what should the eye-to-eye lengths be for front and rear lower CA's with 2.5-3" of lift?
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Unread 06-09-2009, 09:58 PM   #80
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what should the eye-to-eye lengths be for front and rear lower CA's with 2.5-3" of lift?
16" works well with stock uppers and keeps enough caster.
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Unread 06-09-2009, 10:20 PM   #81
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you can get a Klune

a D300 + Klune will fit in a TJ. So should an Atlas + Klune. A supershort NP231 SYE + Klune may fit too.
Why not just go 4 speed atlas?
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Unread 06-09-2009, 10:32 PM   #82
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Why not just go 4 speed atlas?
4-speed Atlas: $2875
3-speed Stak: $2900

Klune: $2600
^^damn thats expensive.

My idea:
Rubicon NV241J: $800-1000
AA Rubicrawler: $1600
Total: $2400-2600

Saves a few hundred bucks and doesn't change the drivetrain length at all.
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Unread 06-09-2009, 10:52 PM   #83
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4-speed Atlas: $2875
3-speed Stak: $2900

Klune: $2600
^^damn thats expensive.

My idea:
Rubicon NV241J: $800-1000
AA Rubicrawler: $1600
Total: $2400-2600

Saves a few hundred bucks and doesn't change the drivetrain length at all.
I would rather spend a few hundred more and have a gear driven transfer case, and I only had to shorten the rear drive line a half inch, so I don't think changing the drivetrain length was a big deal in my case.
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Unread 06-09-2009, 11:01 PM   #84
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I'll be going after the rubicrawler also.. wont' need any new driveshafts, shift linkages... ect.

I'd say since I havn't busted the 241 yet, it'll prolly last a long time...

I do like the atlas tho.. that's for sure
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Unread 06-09-2009, 11:05 PM   #85
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I'll be going after the rubicrawler also.. wont' need any new driveshafts, shift linkages... ect.

I'd say since I havn't busted the 241 yet, it'll prolly last a long time...

I do like the atlas tho.. that's for sure
If I had a 241 I wouldn't replace it for an Atlas, but by the time you buy a used 241 and add a rubicrawler to it its getting too close to the price of a brand new atlas 4 me.
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Unread 06-10-2009, 07:12 AM   #86
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If I had a 241 I wouldn't replace it for an Atlas, but by the time you buy a used 241 and add a rubicrawler to it its getting too close to the price of a brand new atlas 4 me.
but you can put a 241 in for the same price as a SYE installed. Run it for several years, then add a Rubicrawler for less than half the cost of Atlas 4-speed once you figure new driveshafts, tub hammering and linkages. I can't afford a Rubicrawler or an Atlas right now. But a NV241J + $20 used Rubicon front driveshaft + 1310/1330 u-joint + Tom Woods rear shaft is doable, and will work forever if I want. Once I do get the money saved for a Rubicrawler, I can install it with zero changes to the drivetrain.

Compare that with an SYE in the NP231, a Teralow in the NP231, then blowing it up. Then going to an Atlas. Thats very spendy for the same result.

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Unread 06-10-2009, 08:45 AM   #87
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What do you have planned for the 241 linkage? Factory or aftermarket? I thought about reusing my factory stuff, but I did not like the feel of the engagement. After having the Novak 231 shifter I went with their new 241 cable shifter.
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What do you have planned for the 241 linkage? Factory or aftermarket? I thought about reusing my factory stuff, but I did not like the feel of the engagement. After having the Novak 231 shifter I went with their new 241 cable shifter.
Interesting, i'll look into that. I was just going to fabricate something if necessary or bend the stock linkage to make it work. Do you have any pics of the cable shifter?
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Unread 06-10-2009, 06:06 PM   #89
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Here is the only picture I have of it.

It uses the stock lever so you don't have to bend the shift arm like the old models.
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Here is the only picture I have of it.

It uses the stock lever so you don't have to bend the shift arm like the old models.
I can't find that on Novak's website.


Question: Anyone know where I can find the speedo tone ring sending unit for the NV241J? The wires are all chewed up on this one. P/N: 05033202AB ??? maybe??

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