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UCF "no body lift" skid, does it work without SYE?

I'm looking at buying this as much next purchase, if and only if I can run it without investing in a SYE right now. Will it work with my 2.5" suspension lift?

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Does your set-up now include any t-case drop? If so, then you would definately need to address driveline angles if you lifted the transmission any.

When I spoke with Matt at UCF, I believe he said with the No BL skid and their LoPro trans mount, the transmission is only 1/2" higher than stock.
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Does your set-up now include any t-case drop? If so, then you would definately need to address driveline angles if you lifted the transmission any.

When I spoke with Matt at UCF, I believe he said with the No BL skid and their LoPro trans mount, the transmission is only 1/2" higher than stock.
No, I didn't need the drop that came with the kit. They don't offer a lopro for a 98 with an automatic. I'm ordering a new stock replacement transmission mount and I've been told I can modify it for a 3/4" drop. I wonder if I did that along with a MML if I could still get by without a SYE. I don't have the money to do all that's involved in a SYE along with the new skid all at the same time.

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I just called them. The "no body lift" kit will put the transfer case 1.5" higher than it is now. The Lopro mount will bring it back down 3/4" on a 98. That will effectively put me at what a 3.25" lift would as far as angles go. He said a MML will always help and if i needed to I could drop the skid 1/4" with bar stock.

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viperbluelx, I just installed the 1/4" thick UCF "No Body-Lift Needed" skid on my 1998 Jeep. I also have a 3 speed automatic transmission. When I could finally afford to lift my Jeep 3-4 years ago, I wanted to do a "budget" build; hence, I lifted my Jeep with a 2" BDS suspension lift. Unfortunately I did get driveline vibes, even with such a short lift. I ended up dropping my transfer case 3/4" to remove the vibes. A short time afterward, I purchased a bodylift and MML combo to clear my soon to arrive 33" tires. When I installed my MML, I also removed my transfer case drop and was pleased to experience that my vibes were cured by the MML.

Moving forward to the present, I just installed my UFC skid this past week. I was hoping that my MML would allow me to simply change out the OEM transfer case skid with the UCF "No Body-Lift Needed"skid and still remain vibe-free. I was wrong , when I took the Jeep out on a test drive with the new skid, I immediately felt vibes starting after 15 mph, up toward 30 mph. As such, I began to install one washer at a time and test drove the Jeep until the vibes disappeared. It took 6 test drives = 6 washers = a total of 3/4" to resolve my new vibes (despite my MML).

Now even though I dropped my UCF skid 3/4", I still ended up with a net clearance of 3/4" over the stock OEM transfer case skid with 1/4" carbon steel protection. So to answer your posted question, it will work without a SYE but you may have to modify and align your driveline angles - similar to what I did. Here's a pic of the 3/4" drop:


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Did you run a lopro mount with it?

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Did you run a lopro mount with it?
I didn't, I don't think they have finalized the Lopro mount design for '97-02 Jeeps.

As such, I don't think the current UCF Lopro mount is compatible with my 1998 automatic 32RH transmission.

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It is available, I called yesterday.
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It is available, I called yesterday.
Hmmm, so I take it that they addressed this issue:

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"The LOPRO mount should not be used with 32RH automatic transmission in the early TJ because the adapter that attaches the transmission mount to the skid plate doesn't adequately support the bottom side of the LOPRO mount."
If so, I may be placing another order with Matt .

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Hmmm, so I take it that they addressed this issue:



If so, I may be placing another order with Matt .
He said that the 32RH required a 1/4" spacer to make it work and they have it in stock and will include it with the mount if you let them know, they just don't advertise it on the site.

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He said that the 32RH required a 1/4" spacer to make it work and they have it in stock and will include it with the mount if you let them know, they just don't advertise it on the site.
Awesome, are you going to go for it? I can definitely tell you, the skid is a quality product, at a very nice price.

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Awesome, are you going to go for it? I can definitely tell you, the skid is a quality product, at a very nice price.
from reading on here I've found you can drop the TC 3/4" by modifying the stock mount, which won't cost me anything. I'm going to try that first. I think I'm going to go ahead with a Hack-n-tap and CV driveshaft before doing the tummy tuck though.

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