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Unread 10-09-2013, 10:52 PM   #16
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yea, theres some other stuff....
a drop pitman arm, which needs to be replaced with the stock pitman arm.
stock front track bar needs to be replaced with an aftermarket bar, and the axle bracket needs to be reinforced. see here: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/br...racket-905624/
looks like RE adjustable arms
So is it a crap lift job or just not ideal? Is all of this stuff that's not too difficult to do if I do some research how to do it? Also, is my pitman arm stock and I need a drop pitman arm or the other way around?

Now I know why it is recommended to buy a Jeep stock and do your own mods.

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Unread 10-10-2013, 07:53 AM   #17
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Adjustable front trackbar is what you need. Keep the OE pitman arm.
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Unread 10-10-2013, 08:00 AM   #18
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So is it a crap lift job or just not ideal?
based on the pictures, some of it looks to be crap. some components may be salvageable though.
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Unread 10-10-2013, 08:18 AM   #19
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Thanks guys! I really appreciate the help and am trying to learn my head from my a$$ when it comes to this stuff. I'm guessing there are several possibilities based on what you guys are saying that could be contributing to my death wobble on the highway. It is not happening all of the time but it seems like when I hit a bump at around a certain speed it gets going.

Would you be so kind as to post links for perspective parts I need? Kind of a shopping list of parts you'd recommend?

Like this:
http://www.amazon.com/JKS-OGS126-Fro.../dp/B005TTZO9O

OR

http://www.4x4groupbuy.com/store/-p-...FcI7Mgod_E8A5g
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Unread 10-11-2013, 07:32 AM   #20
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Before you start throwing parts at it you need to do the dry steering test. Basically have the key to the On position (don't start the Jeep) so the steering wheel in unlocked. Have some one wag the wheel back and forth just enough to feel tension on the steering wheel. You look under the Jeep to see what parts are moving. Shouldn't be much play in any of it but if your TRE's are moving or control arms, you've found your problem. If not check toe, check ball joints, and check tire balance.
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Unread 10-11-2013, 12:56 PM   #21
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Yeah you're most likely getting bump steer caused by your track bar being at a different angle than your drag link Which can often cause death wobble. I would look into a drop bracket and an adjustable track bar. Before installing a new track bar have a front and rear Alignment done so you can make sure that your front axle is not kicked from one side or the other. I noticed your track bar mounting bracket on the axle has a second hole drilled. You might already know this but your track bar keeps your axle from moving side to side and keeps it centered under the vehicle. Like previously stated check your axle ball joints were steering ball joints your steering stabilizer which is the shock laying horizontally And your wheel balance. All of these will cause death wobble!!
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Unread 10-11-2013, 01:10 PM   #22
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Adjustable front trackbar is what you need. Keep the OE pitman arm.
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Yeah you're most likely getting bump steer caused by your track bar being at a different angle than your drag link Which can often cause death wobble. I would look into a drop bracket and an adjustable track bar. Before installing a new track bar have a front and rear Alignment done so you can make sure that your front axle is not kicked from one side or the other. I noticed your track bar mounting bracket on the axle has a second hole drilled. You might already know this but your track bar keeps your axle from moving side to side and keeps it centered under the vehicle. Like previously stated check your axle ball joints were steering ball joints your steering stabilizer which is the shock laying horizontally And your wheel balance. All of these will cause death wobble!!
Yeah, I'm going to go over those things today or this weekend at least. FWIW, the Jeep goes straight on the highway and does not pull to either side. Also, the previous owner said they did an alignment after dropping the lift from 4" to 3". I never even noticed the death wobble until I hit a specific section of the highway the other day and I think a certain bump and maybe even bump pattern in the road there is what set the death wobble in motion. Most of the time it is not there or I would have detected it on my test drive prior to purchasing and probably would have passed.
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