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Unread 08-25-2010, 11:57 AM   #1
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tranny hard to get into gear

After stopping it's hard to shift back to 1st gear. I have to find any gear that I can shift into and then it will go into 1st easier. any ideas?


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Unread 08-25-2010, 12:01 PM   #2
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id like to know this also, my 97 wrangler has been doin the same thing, sometimes first will be hard to get into then maybe 10 min later it will slide in as if it was brand new car....every other gear is fine and goes in with no prob
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Unread 08-25-2010, 12:16 PM   #3
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I have the same issue. Even worse, if I rev up to high going into second it will do a momentary grind before popping in. Or down shifting into second. I have to make sure I'm easy off the rev's before I up shift or downshift into second.
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Unread 08-25-2010, 02:03 PM   #4
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This has been covered a few times... but let me give some help. Try down shifting through each gear as you slow to a stop. If you stop in first gear with the clutch engaged, then pull it out of first then release the clutch, youll find that it goes right back into first. Im no expert, but but my dad used to explain it like this. Cars that have an automatic tranny accelerate and decelerate through every gear, it doesnt skip gears... So when you take your manual tranny out of 4th gear, then roll to a stop, youre going to have a little resistance putting it into first gear. You dont necessarily have to go through each gear as you are slowing down... but before you completely stop, try popping it into 1st for a quick second, youll see a world of difference.

Sidenote... same thing goes for when people have trouble getting it into reverse. You more than likeyl pulled into your garage in 1st gear, then shut it off... you are then trying to manually changed the direction of the tranny, so it can sometimes cause resistance.
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Unread 09-08-2010, 08:57 PM   #5
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Thanks I'll try your suggestions. From a dead stop I have to find any gear that I can jam it into before it'll go into first or reverse. I've had many stick shifts in the past and none of them took nearly the amount of effort to get into gear from a dead stop.
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Unread 11-22-2010, 06:46 PM   #6
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It sounds more like you have synchronizers that are bad, more than just that your not doing it right. Especially if you are having the problems in 1st and reverse. First and reverse use the same set of synchronizers I am pretty sure, so it would make since that if 1st was grinding or hard to get in, than reverse should be the same.
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Unread 01-25-2012, 09:36 PM   #7
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For what it's worth…

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/tj...uck-up-865470/
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Unread 01-26-2012, 11:04 AM   #8
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NORCALROOTS, any news after a revisit to the tranny shop last April? My 97 TJ does the same thing yours does. My mechanic didn't think it was the clutch... he thought it was something in the tranny. I just put Redline MT-90 in mine, so we'll see what happens.
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Unread 01-26-2012, 11:14 AM   #9
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Hi jlipps8,

Well after the arrival of my daughter, I decided that the problem might not be that bad in the big scheme of things. So in the interim, I've just gotten in the habit of always putting the Jeep into 1st gear as I roll to a stop. Yes, it's a pain but I can live with it.

At the end of the day, I really think it's my synchros as one person mentioned. I had been following Chyrsler's recommendation on fluid so there was a period of time I had the incorrect fluid (as recommended by Chrysler) in there and I think it did irreversible damage to my tranny.

The next logical step (I think) would be to drop the tranny and verify it's not my pilot bearing (again) and if it's not, then it's got to be the tranny which will require a rebuild or replacement. For now, I'm just going to suck it up but will likely get it done in the next 6 months and will keep the Forum in the loop. Sorry I couldn't be more help.

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Unread 03-13-2012, 12:56 PM   #10
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Hi folks,

I took my Jeep back to the same garage and they were convinced it was a bad pilot bearing and not the transmission. They were convinced of this because the mechanic was able to get the Jeep into first gear easily when the vehicle was turned off but had difficulty getting it in while it was on.

$325 later (discount due to return customer) they've replaced the pilot bearing and I'm still experiencing the same issue. Talk about annoying. I haven't gone back yet but, quite frankly, I don't know if I should go back to that shop as it looks like they can't identify problems in a Jeep tranny very well.

One thought I had is that they are actually going down the right path and that the pilot bearing is just a hair off and catching when it's trying to engage. I have no proof to back it up, just a theory. I wonder if my transfer lowering kit could effect the tranny's alignment with the engine. Thoughts? Does that even make mechanical sense?

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Unread 08-07-2012, 04:30 PM   #11
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Any more suggestions guys? Mine has the same issue. Hard to put in gear after driving it, goes in easy after it's sat, and can easily go in to gear when it's off.

I'll try going down through the gears from now on, but I'd like to eventually figure it out.
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