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What I would do is buy a magnetic angle finder if you do not have one already. Position it on the axle diff housing parallel with the driveshaft or perpendicular to the axle shafts. Read the degree and compare it to the measurement from your alignment. Using the difference you can adjust your control arms and determine your caster. Shoot for the 5 range. Cross caster is the difference between the pass and driver caster measurements. You need this to compensate for the crown in the road. It is set by the way the axle brackets are welded on. If you make the control arms identical in length you will be set. Camber is not going to be adjustable without offset balljoints and it is probably correct anyway as there is some margin of error with how the alignment sensors are clamped on the wheels.
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Yep you've got a caster issue. But though the factory specified caster range is 6 to 8 degrees, 7 being optimal, don't try to get the caster angle all the way back up to that with your suspension lift. Doing so would likely cause front driveshaft vibrations. Your caster goal should be 4.5 to 5.5 degrees with 5 to 5.5 being pretty optimal for your lift height and tire size.
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Spent some time on the phone with the shop today and discussed the caster. I'll probably get some offset ball joints. That, along with rotating the axle should get me where I need to be without the driveline vibes. The good news is that the shop said they would cover the labor on the ball joints and realignment so I'll probably take them up on that. As I said several posts ago, I am also considering switching to manual hubs. If I do that, then I would only have to live with driveline vibes when I'm off-road, which would be tolerable.
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Like I said before since you know the caster you have know you can easily use an angle finder and adjust this yourself. With only adjusting the control arms you can get your caster into the accpetable range. I wouldn't go buying balljoints when you don't need them. Seems like they want you to buy the ball joints so they can make a profit since they offered free labor.
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Not sure what the Problem is, but saw where you posted maybe it was the 6inch lift. I flat tow mine behind my 5th wheel and also have a 6inch lift with no steering problems. I did however loose a wheel on the rear.
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Is your passenger side sway disconnect bent or is it the picture?
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