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post #1 of 84 Old 08-10-2014, 03:48 PM Thread Starter
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TJ Tech- V8 Conversion Guide, Yes a Book..

TECH IN A BOOK...

I have spent a bunch of hours over the last few weeks working on a V8 conversion guide. What started out as a simple 2 page outline has evolved into about a 50pages total guide right now. I am nearing completion on this first one here and it covers the process to complete the foundational and easiest conversion, the gen3 5.7 hemi with a 545rfe, into the tj/lj platform.

it is not a step by step manual.. pretty close though it seems in some places, but a good guide to the process- from teardown, to prep, to install, to testing.

I am going to have some people review it and give me their opinions, but I was wondering if there was enough interest for it on a whole, as well as for my consideration into doing another couple of guides-
  • the GM 5.3/6.0 LS 4l60e into the TJ/LJ
  • gen4 Hemi/545rfe into the TJ/LJ
  • gen3 hemi/5 speed nv3550 conversion into the TJ/LJ platform

I know...because I have contributed a lot of information myself, that there are many posts and threads on the swaps. point of this would be a hands on, stage by stage, organized process, reference guide that you could have in the garage on the bench with you type thing. It sure would be easier to read than pulling up threads on smart phones for one.

just putting it out there looking for some feedback.

so, if this magical hands on guide was an available resource, to be used along with all the information available here in the tj tech section of our beloved jeepforum.... would you want one on your toolbox??


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post #2 of 84 Old 08-10-2014, 03:53 PM
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Jim,

I have a write up on my 50 state legal conversion as well. Let me know if you'd like to take a look.
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I think if you can refine it to be a walk thru of a install, it would be a winner. Tips and tricks and junk yard finds. And best way to wire or where to buy a harness. Stuff like that.
When I 1st started dirt track racing there is a book that gives you step by step instructions on the best car and how to set it up.. I still have it.
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I think if you can refine it to be a walk thru of a install, it would be a winner. Tips and tricks and junk yard finds. And best way to wire or where to buy a harness. Stuff like that.
I would love a book like that, would be a great help if I ever decide to swap out my 4 banger. It would be great to have something to guide people who haven't ever done something like that before without having to scroll through tons of threads.
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sduncan, check your pms buddy...


that's kinda exactly what it is....and I say kinda because I don't see it as a true step by step. if that was to be the case, I think id have another 50 pages at least LOL.... if I find that there is a want for more detailed information, I will gladly put forth the effort.


it is a walk thru based guide with the conversion process is broken into 12 stages start to finish [as of right now]... with steps in each stage addressing how and when to do what, including steering mods, fuel tank mods, trans cooler etc... it also includes sections on which computers to get and why, harness considerations, what basic tools and equipment are needed etc. its set up to address pretty much every point to getting the engine installed and running. if the builder follows it, they will hit them all, and wont have to re-do anything-unless they jump around or screw it up on their end!


the only thing I don't have in it is engine selection, but the guide is based on the 5.7 truck hemi and auto trans. suppose I should take a minute and in clude a page on engine selection etc...


im not a book writer by trade but I think its pretty well put together. like I said, though, I am going to have a few other people review it... both jeep guys, non jeep guys, a few mechanic buddies and even a few females that don't know junk about jeeps or engines LOL


it leaves product choices to the builder but addresses what is needed. but I based it off the most direct fit parts in the market as well as using the parts we designed for the conversions, truth is I haven't seen anything else or at better a solution than what we have done-particularly regarding the cross-member and fuel adapter- for the TJ conversion yet.


in the guide I mention that there are different vendors for things but I haven't included any names as I haven't asked any of them to 'use' their name. I have considered making a few phones calls to some to see what they say.


I would post up a page from it but I haven't figured out how to separate just one from the complete project just yet... lol

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2.5 to 4.0L swap and build up http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/he.../#post14946167
4.0 to 2008 5.3L GM LS in the Taco'd TJ [frame off build].....http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/5-...28/?highlight=
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That sounds like a great book, I would definitely love to have it on my shelf.
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I've got the Banks Turbo on my LJR and I have been very happy with it, but I would still like a book on the conversion as I'm a V8 guy at heart and the thought is always in the back of my mind.

Make it and they will come. I think even those that aren't thinking about it would be interested to see if it is something that they might want to do.

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thanks KC and jack

that's the type of feed back I was looking for. that along the lines of why im doing it also, so those that are thiiiiiiiiinking about it can get a realistic idea of what is involved.

As of right now, with some new revisions and additions, I am currently at 57 pages....

I had 2 reviews today, hoping for at least 2 more tomorrow.

I have a few more pages to add and then I think I will have the first beta copy ready.

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6.1 HEMI Ultimate LJ Rubicon Build http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/6-...ayhem-1013800/
2.5 to 4.0L swap and build up http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/he.../#post14946167
4.0 to 2008 5.3L GM LS in the Taco'd TJ [frame off build].....http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/5-...28/?highlight=
My new DD Build, lift, 4.0 motor swap, done in 6 days?....http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f22/6.../#post15716292

the new shop... http://redrockwiring.com/ conversion, parts and wiring systems
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I'd like to have this book, as soon as i bought my Rubicon I was lusting after a 5.0HO swap. Now that it's not my daily driver anymore, I am looking at the Eaton M62 Supercharger kit, a Dodge 5.9 swap or going full tilt and going with a 5.7 Hemi. Either route I take will involve me keeping the AX-15 Terminator I swapped in.

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I would LOVE to see this done for the 5.3/4l60e swap. Also, If you want another set of eyes on it, I'll take a look at it. I haven't swapped in a V8 (yet) but sometimes it is good to have someone who is not as familiar with the subject matter review it for clarity.


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This is an awesome idea! I know having this resource close at hand for those thinking about, collecting parts, or currently doing a v8 install would be great.

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I don't have any serious plans for a V8 swap but maybe years down the road when I'm done with college it would be a great book to have.

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I would be interested as well. I'm starting to contemplate a swap when I finally kill the stock engine.
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Publish it, sell it, I'll buy it and recommend it up north here. Seen lots of your info on here and having a lot of it put together in a single publication would be a valuable tool for any of us.

Definately like to see the chev stuff. I have one going into a TJ next winter.
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I'd take one.

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