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Unread 11-24-2010, 03:05 PM   #751
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A seam or a bump in the road that could bottom out a pair of 2.5" progressive rate springs w3/4" spacers dampened by two OME L series shocks and bump stopped correctly thats on big seam in my book. Sorry have not encountered that yet or anything like it . I suppose anything is possible but I can't give you an answer to that.
If you think youve never fully compressed your probably mistaken.
Pull the springs and jounce bumpers, attach an empty beer can on your bumpstops, hit some speedbumps down at the mall and see how much it crushes the can.

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Unread 11-24-2010, 05:32 PM   #752
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I got pulled away almost as soon as I got into the garage today but I did measure my N66L with the Jeep just sitting there and I may have a little more lift than I thought as it was 21" which may explain why I have not bottomed out the way some seem so determined I have without having a clue as to where I drive it.
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Unread 11-24-2010, 07:26 PM   #753
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I got pulled away almost as soon as I got into the garage today but I did measure my N66L with the Jeep just sitting there and I may have a little more lift than I thought as it was 21" which may explain why I have not bottomed out the way some seem so determined I have without having a clue as to where I drive it.
N66L shocks require 2" bumpstop extension no matter how high the lift is.... which is enough to keep some aftermarket bars from hitting covers at full compression.

you'll only have up to 5.5" uptravel with the 2.5" lift dejpending on the actual amount the springs lifted the rig.. a bone stock TJ has 4"
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Unread 11-24-2010, 07:38 PM   #754
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If you think youve never fully compressed your probably mistaken.
Pull the springs and jounce bumpers, attach an empty beer can on your bumpstops, hit some speedbumps down at the mall and see how much it crushes the can.
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A seam or a bump in the road that could bottom out a pair of 2.5" progressive rate springs w3/4" spacers dampened by two OME L series shocks and bump stopped correctly thats on big seam in my book. Sorry have not encountered that yet or anything like it . I suppose anything is possible but I can't give you an answer to that.
thats a smaller bump in the road than a pair of n66 standard shocks will take due to the higher amount of bumpstop extension required by the long N66L's....

I'll have more time later to set you straight... or you could read the thread a little better along with some other links in my sig, then you'll understand how things work...

some one posted, "who am I to say the manufacture is wrong about fittment"... LOL that exactly what this thread has proven and lead to the development of the currie offset track bar and JKS trying to make a new bend which also didn't work due to interference with the tie rod...

jacking up one side to check clearances tells you absolutely nothing concerning the track bar.
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Unread 11-24-2010, 07:50 PM   #755
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some more optimizations : solid Moog ZJ tierod, :
v8 ZJ..... tie rod that is...
6cyl is the same as the TJ.

a WJ Track bar is worth the time as far as "optimization" goes.... but requires a custom frame side mount and a 7/16" drill bit through the Axle bracket.
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Unread 11-24-2010, 07:54 PM   #756
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If you think youve never fully compressed your probably mistaken.
Pull the springs and jounce bumpers, attach an empty beer can on your bumpstops, hit some speedbumps down at the mall and see how much it crushes the can.
exactly.... I tend to just put zip ties on the shock shaft, when they dissappear,

you know you have a problem
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Unread 11-24-2010, 08:02 PM   #757
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Couldn't a seam or bump in the road that compresses both springs cause the same scenario? In fact I think it would be worse since it would be at speed instead of slowly crawling...
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Unread 11-24-2010, 08:05 PM   #758
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If any one would like that same model bar I have one with maybe 400 miles on it . It does have a bracket that only provides a mount for a bushing instead of the OE TRE, not anything that requires a DPA liketheir 4" and higher Tbar which does require a DPA . The frame mount moves the bar forward of the OE mount and the bar has a curve to it which should clear the cover .
so it clears the cover now.... and hits the tie rod instead, what's worse?
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Unread 11-24-2010, 08:23 PM   #759
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Thank you mudb8 as while back you had mentioned to me when I was installing a JKS track bar that I should be bumpstopped 2.5" because of it . In which case that pretty much explains to some that I am not bottoming out my N66L's that only require 2" then, save me some time . As I said earlier nothing hits, binds ,tops or bottoms out , still no complaints from me . Continue your track bar search I will try not to start any more confusion or maybe it was just me . sucks gett'n old
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Thank you mudb8 as while back you had mentioned to me when I was installing a JKS track bar that I should be bumpstopped 2.5" because of it . In which case that pretty much explains to some that I am not bottoming out my N66L's that only require 2" then, save me some time . As I said earlier nothing hits, binds ,tops or bottoms out , still no complaints from me . Continue your track bar search I will try not to start any more confusion or maybe it was just me . sucks gett'n old
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Unread 11-24-2010, 11:58 PM   #761
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So for now the "best" thing for me to do with a 3" lift on the front is to just live with the offset axle and run my stock tracbar?

I still think that you/I could put a line running the length of the stock bar cut it, space it 1/2 the distance my axle is off, line up my "drawn line" and sleeve it with some DOM or heavy walled pipe.

WILL THIS WORK or should i leave it alone and run the stocker till someone comes out with a "real deal" tracbar???
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Unread 11-26-2010, 09:10 PM   #762
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So for now the "best" thing for me to do with a 3" lift on the front is to just live with the offset axle and run my stock tracbar?

I still think that you/I could put a line running the length of the stock bar cut it, space it 1/2 the distance my axle is off, line up my "drawn line" and sleeve it with some DOM or heavy walled pipe.

WILL THIS WORK or should i leave it alone and run the stocker till someone comes out with a "real deal" tracbar???

I think 3" is reaching the point to where the axle will be too far offset to simply run the stock track bar. From what I know, you'll run into wear and tear issues with your ties because of the axle's offset.

I'm taking this problem serious enough to go from my RC 2.5 (with 1.75" spacer in front) down to a OME 2" lift due, in part, to being able to run the stock track bar. Someone needs to step up, build a cure-all solid track bar and spread the word about this issue-and retire a wealthy man.
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Unread 11-26-2010, 09:24 PM   #763
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I aint done answering one and some one finds fault with another post already what'd I do ....... all I was getting at was, Yes it has a bracket but not what would be considered a drop bracket which would require a drop pitman . I thought that was where the thread was heading so I brought that up ,nothing to do with what is next on the list of items it could contact . I just described the bar not misslead any one you are reading way to much into just a description of what a bar looks like . I never said this was theTrack bar you have been searching for .
I should'a known that was gonna hurt feelings, Sorry, I know I can be Jerk and I shoulda used the smilely!

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So for now the "best" thing for me to do with a 3" lift on the front is to just live with the offset axle and run my stock tracbar?

I still think that you/I could put a line running the length of the stock bar cut it, space it 1/2 the distance my axle is off, line up my "drawn line" and sleeve it with some DOM or heavy walled pipe.

WILL THIS WORK or should i leave it alone and run the stocker till someone comes out with a "real deal" tracbar???
I cut and sleeve alot of bars mostly so I can also bend the axle end to keep it from binding up in the bracket..

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I think 3" is reaching the point to where the axle will be too far offset to simply run the stock track bar. From what I know, you'll run into wear and tear issues with your ties because of the axle's offset.

I'm taking this problem serious enough to go from my RC 2.5 (with 1.75" spacer in front) down to a OME 2" lift due, in part, to being able to run the stock track bar. Someone needs to step up, build a cure-all solid track bar and spread the word about this issue-and retire a wealthy man.
the 3" is generally high enough to redrill the bracket without ill effects other than binding up on the axle bracket with 9" travel shocks.

having the axles off center isn't gonna cause a tire wear problem as long as the camber and toe in are correct, the front axle sticks out the left and the rear sticks out the right without correction.

BTW.... I pretty much have the "cure all" and I'll be darned If I can't give em away. It's fairly labor intensive to install what I've been doing but they don't flex and I haven't bent one yet. I don't exactly have a pattern to go with since I just build and install em one at a time.
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Unread 11-26-2010, 09:29 PM   #764
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So Mudb8, does the Currie "offset" tracbar hit too, I know you said that the JKS one with the bend does but am unsure of the "new" currie one.

And MUD thanks for all the info BTW

SO "IF" i shipped you a stock TB could/would you "cure" it for me and how much would it cost?

OR should i try to cut/sleeve my spare stock TB?

Dont really want to redrill the axle bracket for fear of weakining the bracket itself...

PS: the front shocks i run are 24.66" extended and 14.79" collapsed. ZONE OFFROAD for a 3" Kit
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Unread 11-27-2010, 08:30 AM   #765
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So Mudb8, what's the cure-all? Does it need to be welded on? I've got a great welder here who does beautiful work, and I'd be more than happy to purchase the bracket from you (if it's what I think I saw you post).
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