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Unread 03-18-2013, 06:27 AM   #1516
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I don't think that's the point of this thread. I run similar bump stops up front. There's no way around it and there's nothing 'incorrect' about it.
I probably could have worded that a little differently. I don't feel that there is anything wrong with it (I have extended bumpstops currently and they will stay there until I have some time to modify my 3 link a bit and do something about my fenders).

I don't think anyone ever disputed the fact that an aftermarket track bar and riddler cover could be used together. I feel that the point of the thread is to show interference that occurs with certain track bars and or diff covers. Maybe I got the wrong impression from T-Jay but it sounded like he was not aware of this. Regardless this is just one more example that goes to show that some bolt on parts require more than just bolting them on and calling it a day.

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Unread 03-18-2013, 06:38 AM   #1517
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I probably could have worded that a little differently. I don't feel that there is anything wrong with it (I have extended bumpstops currently and they will stay there until I have some time to modify my 3 link a bit and do something about my fenders).

I don't think anyone ever disputed the fact that an aftermarket track bar and riddler cover could be used together. I feel that the point of the thread is to show interference that occurs with certain track bars and or diff covers. Maybe I got the wrong impression from T-Jay but it sounded like he was not aware of this. Regardless this is just one more example that goes to show that some bolt on parts require more than just bolting them on and calling it a day.
This is exactly the same impression I was getting.
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Unread 03-18-2013, 06:45 AM   #1518
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That's what this entire thread is about. The necessity of large extended bump stops with aftermarket track bars and diff covers. From your previous posts it sounded as if you were going to prove that wrong. Your pictures show otherwise.
Oh forget it, nailing down this thread/topic is like trying to squeeze a bar of soap. In its 1500+ posts this thread has been about lift height, shock lengths, TB brands/configurations/customizations, axle positioning, differential covers, bump stop configurations and on and on. It's been stated a hundred times in a hundred ways that aftermarket TBs and Riddler dif covers do not mix.

I'm just saying that "my" Jeep's Currie TB clears "my" Riddler dif. cover with "my" specs. Just as I was told by the product reps. My TB and dif cover NEVER once even touched, with or without the 2" bump stops. Granted I've never jumped the Jeep...but I don't really plan on doing that anyway. The new extensions have stopped my tires rubbing at the rear fender well which is great so I'm happy with them. I will do some trimming here and there on the D.S. spring perch. I noticed that at full droop the rear of the perch comes into contact with my lower control arm so that will have to be resolved.
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Unread 03-18-2013, 06:49 AM   #1519
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Was this picture really taken with 2" bumpstop extensions?


Because this one was taken with 1" extensions and you can see how much lower the trackbar JJ is.
Yes. But I realized at that point that my axle was not centered correctly under the Jeep. 1/2" to the P.S.
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Unread 03-18-2013, 06:51 AM   #1520
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Was this picture really taken with 2" bumpstop extensions?


Because this one was taken with 1" extensions and you can see how much lower the trackbar JJ is.
Caster could have something to do with that.



T-Jay,
I would trim that coil bucket a bit. Maybe just a slice in the 90* bend, then fold the tab away from the trackbar and you can reweld it beck together. I'd also be interested to see it at full articulation with that driver side only stuffed.

The axle will NOT be centered at full stuff if you center it at ride height because of the swing of the trackbar. 1/2" off doesn't sound too bad to me.

My question for you is - what arms are you using (and what lengths are they set to) and if you were to trim the coil bucket, it looks like the trackbar end would then be running into the tie rod (or do my eyes deceive me) at 100% bump?



I think the point of this thread is that with all the fancy tools out there, can the aftermarket really not produce a double sheer trackbar that misses the diff cover (even if it is a stock cover) and the tierod/dag link.


And to add a whole 'nother level of fun to this, every test I have seen (I have not read the entire thread) is bump testing with the steering at center.
You guys don't turn?
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Unread 03-18-2013, 07:06 AM   #1521
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Caster could have something to do with that.

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I would trim that coil bucket a bit. Maybe just a slice in the 90* bend, then fold the tab away from the trackbar and you can reweld it beck together.

The axle will NOT be centered at full stuff if you center it at ride height because of the swing of the trackbar. 1/2" off doesn't sound too bad to me.

My question for you is - what arms are you using (and what lengths are they set to) and if you were to trim the coil bucket, it looks like the trackbar end would then be running into the tie rod (or do my eyes deceive me) at 100% bump?

I think the point of this thread is that with all the fancy tools out there, can the aftermarket really not produce a double sheer trackbar that misses the diff cover (even if it is a stock cover) and the tierod/dag link.

And to add a whole 'nother level of fun to this, every test I have seen (I have not read the entire thread) is bump testing with the steering at center.
You guys don't turn?
Yes at ride height it's approx. 1/2" off. I do realize that the axle travels over to the DS as it stuffs. I'm using currie adj. arms. Don't recall the lengths at the moment. I can check later though.

I totally overlooked the TB tie rod conflict. Hmm. I'll have to check and see if I have a shot from a different angle.

Didn't occur to me at the time to turn the wheel before stuffing it. Have to try it next time. Good point there.

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Unread 03-18-2013, 07:11 AM   #1522
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2" is Huge?

The first four photos show the jounce bumpers removed. And there is no possible driving scenario in which my 2" aluminum bump stop extensions would be forced to compress to a measurement less than 2". What's the point in testing with them removed? I still have gobs of up travel in the front end. To the point that my tires are still getting into my fenders when the jeep is fully loaded with tools and the hard top on.
2" bumpstops can be considered "huge" if your only lifting 2-3"...........especially if your trying to maximize uptravel.
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Unread 03-18-2013, 07:15 AM   #1523
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2" bumpstops can be considered "huge" if your only lifting 2-3"...........especially if your trying to maximize uptravel.
I'm lifter 5.25".

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Unread 03-18-2013, 07:44 AM   #1524
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I'm lifter 5.25".
good work.

now put the shocks back in, and check full bump again to make sure the shocks aren't the limiting factor.

also post the upper and lower control arm eye-to-eye lengths, as that will speak to axle position and caster. and why your tires rub the rear of the wheelwell.

while you're at it, you can drop the axle to full droop with the shocks installed, and turn the steering wheel lock to lock for checking brake line length (making sure the lines long enough, and not acting as limiting straps).
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I'm lifter 5.25".

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The thread title states 0-3.5" of lift. Are you talking about combined lift?
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Unread 03-18-2013, 07:56 AM   #1527
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good work.

now put the shocks back in, and check full bump again to make sure the shocks aren't the limiting factor.

also post the upper and lower control arm eye-to-eye lengths, as that will speak to axle position and caster. and why your tires rub the rear of the wheelwell.

while you're at it, you can drop the axle to full droop with the shocks installed, and turn the steering wheel lock to lock for checking brake line length (making sure the lines long enough, and not acting as limiting straps).
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I got my front apart to check everything.

No chance in hell that the JKS adjustable trackbar would clear the Solid diff cover without 2" extensions and grinding.

So I put in 2" extensions and started grinding.



Then I checked droop, stuff, straight and turned and as of right now, everything clears. Brake lines are long enough and even in max articulation the shocks have a hair left in them. The brake lines may actually be too long. Will have to see how they work out.

Tires will very gently kiss the top of the fender at full stuff (with a 2" extension but no jounce). That was with the wheels pointed straight. I'm sure turned would be worse on the back of the well but with the jounce in there I fell OK about it. If I make noise rubbing the back of the fender I'll live. At least my trackbar should not explode from contacting the diff cover ... not that I ever expect to jump this thing but who know what could happen.
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Unread 03-18-2013, 12:53 PM   #1529
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Okay so I have been following this crazy thread and now I dont know if I want to put a lift on my jeep if all its going to do is open this can of worms you
guys keep going back amd fourth about on here I was just going to do rc 3.25 but now I am not sure
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Unread 03-18-2013, 01:10 PM   #1530
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No chance in hell that the JKS adjustable trackbar would clear the Solid diff cover without 2" extensions and grinding.
yup, maybe something like this?

nice work btw.
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