Tire bead unseating Tech - Page 2

tommaho · 11-30-2007, 08:19 AM

We (our club) still hasn't found a good, quick, consistent way to break beads. It's still hit and miss.

Once in awhile the "driving onto the tire" thing worked, but the last time we did that we folded and collapsed the belt of a BFG AT and made the tire a permanent spare. Live and learn.

I've thought about carrying a set of tire spoons, but those can still be a pita, not to mention especially damaging to the wheels (if the driver cares) when you're rushing to do stuff trail-side.

The high lift thing is hit and miss, depending on the sidewall and tire size.

I'm working on a foot/blade thingy for the base of the high-lift, but I haven't had the time to perfect it yet. I made the blade too short on my first one because on some tires the foot is hitting the wheel before the bead gets pushed off.

When this method works it's quick and painless, so I think this one has the most potential since we still tend to have a couple high lifts in the group every time we're out.

**mrblaine** · 11-30-2007, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by tommaho

We (our club) still hasn't found a good, quick, consistent way to break beads. It's still hit and miss.

Once in awhile the "driving onto the tire" thing worked, but the last time we did that we folded and collapsed the belt of a BFG AT and made the tire a permanent spare. Live and learn.

I've thought about carrying a set of tire spoons, but those can still be a pita, not to mention especially damaging to the wheels (if the driver cares) when you're rushing to do stuff trail-side.

The high lift thing is hit and miss, depending on the sidewall and tire size.

I'm working on a foot/blade thingy for the base of the high-lift, but I haven't had the time to perfect it yet. I made the blade too short on my first one because on some tires the foot is hitting the wheel before the bead gets pushed off.

When this method works it's quick and painless, so I think this one has the most potential since we still tend to have a couple high lifts in the group every time we're out.

Acquire a set of tyre pliers and spoons for the group. I can bust down and dismount a 39" tire in about 5 minutes with a set.

tommaho · 11-30-2007, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mrblaine

Acquire a set of tyre pliers and spoons for the group. I can bust down and dismount a 39" tire in about 5 minutes with a set.

I had no idea those pliers even existed.

Thanks Blaine.

**Jerry Bransford** · 11-30-2007, 09:39 AM

There's a nice compact set of tire pliers/spoons made, I believe, in Australia that is sold here in the U.S. that I understand works really well. I'm betting Blaine has a set of them.

The Mean Fish · 11-30-2007, 09:56 AM

The only fool proof way I've found (which I had to do a couple time when mounting my Krawlers on my beadlocks) is lay it flat on the ground in front of my CTD and put the claw of my hilift jack in the front bumper receiver hitch and put the foot on a piece of wood on the tire and start jacking. I tried doing it with the Jeep but you just lift the Jeep off the ground... that Cummins doesn't like to rise as easy.

**mrblaine** · 11-30-2007, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tommaho

I'm working on a foot/blade thingy for the base of the high-lift, but I haven't had the time to perfect it yet. I made the blade too short on my first one because on some tires the foot is hitting the wheel before the bead gets pushed off.

http://www.beadbreaker.co.za/bead.pdf

**Jerry Bransford** · 11-30-2007, 10:13 AM

Here's a link to that Australian "Tyrepliers Bead Breaker" kit I mentioned above... a little pricey but worth it the first time you need it... http://www.offroadrecovery.com/product/TYREPLIERS/TYREPLIERS_DELUXE_KIT,_OFFROAD_TIRE_REPAIR_TOOL.ht ml

**mrblaine** · 11-30-2007, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford

Here's a link to that Australian "Tyrepliers Bead Breaker" kit I mentioned above... a little pricey but worth it the first time you need it... http://www.offroadrecovery.com/product/TYREPLIERS/TYREPLIERS_DELUXE_KIT,_OFFROAD_TIRE_REPAIR_TOOL.ht ml

Jerry, take a look at the way I spelled tire above.

**Jerry Bransford** · 11-30-2007, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mrblaine

Jerry, take a look at the way I spelled tire above.

What do you think made me think of that Australian kit.

(and I just remembered you DO have that kit!)

Roko · 11-30-2007, 07:40 PM

I've got a habit of unseating beads but it's usually pretty easy to fix on the trail.

First time was stock wrangler GS/As on stock wheels... Running at the rated pressure (I forget it now), I was in a deep ATV rut with solid but slippery walls, I had one tire in the rut, one on the top beside the rut.. I got over a little to far and slipped fully into the v-shaped rut. I blew one bead completely and developed a bead leak in the other that I found the next day when the tire was completely flat.... I fixed the blown bead with some naphtha and lighter fluid..

Second time was me being stupid an driving a bit too fast for the conditions, on a back road... I caught one side on some snow, and the other side was on a very icy patch.. the resulting spin and slamming into the hill on the side of the road de-seated both beads on the drivers side. One fixed with starter fluid, the other fixed with air. Drove back home 3 hours with no leaks, and no leaks thereafter. I was pressures down to to about 15ish PSI on 33x12.50 MTZs on Procomp 15x8 steelies.

Greg_Volkman · 11-30-2007, 07:54 PM

well on my beadlocks the outer seal pops right off (of course) and I have always found that putting my hilift base on the tire and using the weight of the jeep to apply pressure pops the bead right off the rim every time with little effort.

Humboldt · 11-30-2007, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mrblaine

I could not get the tire to debead in the process. I was amazed.

Isn't it obvious? It didn't debead because of the added heat to the tire from NON SLOTTED ROTORS. You didn't know that as torsional force is added to non slotted rotors at a stand still, heat is created there-by raising the air pressure in the tire?

You were in fact attempting to debead a 40 PSI tire (AT A MINIMUM!), Sir.

TJeeper · 11-30-2007, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mrblaine

I could not get the tire to debead in the process. I was amazed.

Looks to me like you are pulling on both sides of the tire at the same time. I've only seen a tire debead on one side then fall off the rim.

Jeepinty · 12-03-2007, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TJeeper

Looks to me like you are pulling on both sides of the tire at the same time. I've only seen a tire debead on one side then fall off the rim.

Does not matter, while it is significantly harder to unseat a tire by pushing on both sides (top/bottom) at once but the reason it is not unseating is because of the facts I mentioned above. Had they been pulling the tire the other way for some reason, the tire would have unseated rather easily.

stjjames · 12-03-2007, 01:33 AM

Happened easier than I would have cared for . . .