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post #31 of 97 Old 01-17-2009, 10:49 AM
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i like the ends on the new threaded rods. makes me wish they sent me a new style instead of the old one. there were people getting new ones about that time too

now i think i will go find the parts to do mine like that. i have this rattle from the old style rod that is annoying. that in it self should say something because usually that kind of stuff won't bother me.


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and...
i thought it was a fun and worthwhile project. it takes some time to get it right but totally worth it.

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i like the ends on the new threaded rods. makes me wish they sent me a new style instead of the old one. there were people getting new ones about that time too
I wonder what I have, the new or old style. What's the difference Tim?

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Jerrys pics bring back some memories. His is the new style.

Novak really should put a collection of pictures of shifter canes bent and the application they are used on to give you a ballpark idea of what the final product will look like.

I put the old style in mine in a couple hours (Pics in gallery).

Took us all day to get Jerrys working. Even then he had some fine tuning to do after that.

As much of a pain as they can be to get set-up. Its worth it in the end.


(Jerry, you cant post the pic of cane attempt #1 )
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I feel your frustration, you know I had the same problems getting mine bent properly as well. Dang, I wish I had a photo of the final bend that is working for me. If I didn't have to remove my full-length skidplate and RE belly pan to get it out, I'd remove it and take a photo of it for you. I should have done that when I had to remove it to tack-weld it to the bracket.

It would be worth it to go to your local hardware store to buy a MAP torch kit. I don't recall what it costs but $40 or so rings a bell. It has a bottle of oxygen and a bottle of map gas and together, they produce a hot enough flame to bend the cane. Good luck man, I know getting my Novak shifter working properly wasn't one of my more fun projects either.
The only positive that I can come up so far with is that I can get my RE Belly Pan off and front drive shaft removed from T-Case in about 10 minutes now... They have been on and off about 4 or 5 times in the past few weeks... I have yet to reinstall my Jeep Medic Engine Skid, but will once I get this thing right (or decide to give up)...

Maybe I'll go try to get a MAP torch later today so at least I won't have to wait for a free day with my buddy...

Ugggg...
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pics coming jerry. (now where did i put those?.....)

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Maybe I'll go try to get a MAP torch later today so at least I won't have to wait for a free day with my buddy...
That will help a lot. It still won't be "easy" to bend but it'll at least be bendable. I hope you have a good heavy vise and something to put over the end to bend it with for a little added leverage. Good luck with it, you will finally get it shifting ok. If your present cane gets to the point it's been bent too much and it's beyond help, I have a fresh unbent cane I can UPS to you.

Edit: Tim, that is totally different from mine. When did you get that?

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Maybe I'll go try to get a MAP torch later today so at least I won't have to wait for a free day with my buddy...
Just a MAP torch would take quite a while. To bend mine and Jerrys, I used a brazing torch setup I picked up at Home Depot. Uses a can of MAP gas and a Can of Oxygen. Burns MUCH hotter.
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Yep, get a kit that includes both a map gas bottle and oxygen gas bottle as I mentioned above. It's the two gasses mixed together that make it hot enough to bend the cane.

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Just a MAP torch would take quite a while. To bend mine and Jerrys, I used a brazing torch setup I picked up at Home Depot. Uses a can of MAP gas and a Can of Oxygen. Burns MUCH hotter.
Yah, I have the standard single bottle of MAP that I heated for 20+ minutes and while "red", it wasn't even close to bending, even in the vice with a heavy pipe over the end. I will try to get one of the dual bottle setups, or at least see what the Depot has that isn't crazy $$$...

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i think i got it about a year ago.
the all thread attatchment points rattle and sometimes loosen or tighten if you dont use thread locker on their nuts. i really have to get it just right to make for smooth shifting.

i see the new style rod system is a vast improvement!

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with my oxy/acetylene torch it took less than 30 seconds to heat it up. a small kit is not too expensive and a good investment.

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Hey Jerry, can I see a top side pic of your console where the shifter comes out?

Can PM or email if you don't want to post in the thread...

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Hey Jerry, can I see a top side pic of your console where the shifter comes out?

Can PM or email if you don't want to post in the thread...

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That's in 2Hi of course. In 4Lo, it's all the way to the rear of the slot and there is maybe an inch of the cane showing under the knob above the shifter slot.
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