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Unread 04-19-2011, 11:32 AM   #1
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are there any lockers compatible with stock 30/35 but also 44?

So my next big upgrade needs to be lockers like any self respecting 4WD vehicle. But I have a 2001 non Rubicon so I have a Dana 30 in the front and a 35 in the rear from what I gather. Now my question is, are there any lockers on the market that would be compatible with these axles I have now but also with like a Dana 44 so when I upgrade later I won't have to get new lockers?
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Unread 04-19-2011, 11:33 AM   #2
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nope.
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Unread 04-19-2011, 12:00 PM   #3
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lockers are very specifically made for that version of axle. if you dont ever plan to run bigger than a 35" tire you could look into the super 35 kit for your rear axle. they make everything beefier and some kits come with lockers.

It is highly not recommended to put a locker in a dana 35 unless you go with a super 35 kit.

Some non Rubicon jeeps also came with rear Dana 44 axles.

your stock front axle could be upgraded more easily than the rear to accommodate 35s also.
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Unread 04-19-2011, 02:00 PM   #4
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I highly recommend you find out if you have a D35 or D44. Just cause it ain't a Rubi don't mean it's a D35.
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Unread 04-19-2011, 02:09 PM   #5
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What's your rear axle look like? Like has been mentioned. You need to buy lockers for your specific axles and they will not swap over.

D35 (usually has a rubber fill plug)


D44
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Unread 04-19-2011, 07:29 PM   #6
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Oh wow thanks guys that's a lot of good info, this is my first thread, this whole forum thing is pretty cool.

So I checked and I deff have D30 in the front and D35 in the rear. And after a bit of reading it doesn't seem like a good idea to build on stock D30/35 with expensive lockers and 33 or 35 in tires (right now I only have 31x10.50 but someday in the not too distant future I'll get 33s at least).

So the best solution would be to be to get a super 30 and super 35 kit, ones that come with lockers since that's the whole point of replacing the axle shafts. Am I missing anything?
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Unread 04-19-2011, 07:39 PM   #7
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Now you gotta check your gear ratio. Look on the little metal tag on the rear axle, should be on the left side.

Both axles are the same gearing, but usually it's easier to check the rear than the front.
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Ok I checked, the front tag says 4.10 and rear says 4.11, so the new super 35 kit or 30 for the front has to match those ratios right?
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Actual answer.....YES!

A Lincoln Locker.

It will work in ANY axle out there. I know guys that have them in: D30, D35, D44(front and rear, HP and LP), D60(front and rear, HP and LP), 14 bolt, Sterling 10.5.
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I have not done a super kit but i thought the kits would come with different gears as those are weak points also, at that time you could change your gearing.

if you have the 4 liter engine go with 4.56 for 33s
with the 2.5 liter engine i believe you would want 4.88s but thats only with a manual transmission, i dont know what that would be for an automatic transmission.

if they dont come with gears i believe a ring and pinion set for that axle cant be much more than 100.

as for that last answer saying you can put a lincoln locker in a d30 and d35 it is correct, however your axles will blow up pulling out of your driveway without a super kit.
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Actual answer.....YES!

A Lincoln Locker.
Haha, should of thought of that
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Unread 04-22-2011, 10:30 AM   #12
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Yeah except a Lincoln locker permanently locks your axles together which is great for offroading but not so much on the road, so I think I'm gonna go with a selectable locker, probably Ox, cuz an automatic one I heard is not very good in the snow or on ice and I'm in Wisconsin and gonna be in Michigan soon.

But for now I'm only gonna upgrade the rear go with Super 35 kit from Yukon and it comes with an Ox locker and I don't think I need to regear cuz I'm only runnin 31s for now. BTW I got 2.5L engine with a manual tranny. And if I do the rear I gotta regear the front so they match so I'll just do that when I get 33s and a Super 30.

So that's the plan for now. But thanks for the input from everyone, you guys are a wealth of knowledge.

Here's the link for the kit, it seems legit.

http://www.4x4groupbuy.com/store/yuk...er-p-6046.html
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Super 35 kit is ok for 33's or at most 35's locked. I think you might take some time to consider a 8.8 swap in the rear. It's FAR stronger than a D35 or Super 35 or even a Dana 44 or Super 44.

If you can weld, or have friends who would for you the 8.8 is often a bit cheaper actually and FAR stronger than the 35 in every respect. Put a super kit in the 8.8 and you got a very serious axle in a jeep that's going to easily support 37" tires or larger.
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Unread 04-22-2011, 01:32 PM   #14
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Actual answer.....YES!

A Lincoln Locker.

It will work in ANY axle out there. I know guys that have them in: D30, D35, D44(front and rear, HP and LP), D60(front and rear, HP and LP), 14 bolt, Sterling 10.5.
smart man right here...and it isnt too costly!
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