SYE

Overdrive · 03-09-2007, 03:04 PM

Everyting is ready, will post updates. Wish me luck!

First "gotcha's" are 1. Needed lower rear shock relocators - (Ran over to Desert Rat and I installed them last night) and 2. CV rear trackbar bracket (overnighted from Offroadtoystore (bracket is in center of pic 1).

First impressions of AA SYE and TW CV DS (pre install).

1. The AA SYE kit arrived in a nice box but packed in a styrafoam form which was shreadded from bouncing around during shipping so all the pieces had to be cleaned and blown out with compressed air.

2. The rear housing had burrs and flakes of metal from machining.

TW DS, no issues at all.

On with the show!

kizer · 03-09-2007, 03:13 PM

Make sure you have a good pair of snap ring pliers.

Other than that its an easy project.

Testykalz · 03-09-2007, 03:47 PM

Way too organized! lol

Other than having good snap ring pliers like stated above, it is pretty straight forward.

kaybone · 03-09-2007, 04:06 PM

Curious, whats the ultra blue for? and Also how did you order your drvie shaft head of time when u have to take precise measurements? thanks ahead.

Coldfever · 03-09-2007, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaybone

Curious, whats the ultra blue for? and Also how did you order your drvie shaft head of time when u have to take precise measurements? thanks ahead.

They offer a universal fit DS as well. You take some measurements before and they make the shaft accordingly.

Overdrive · 03-09-2007, 05:36 PM

Update: 4:30 PM.

Gotcha #3: The front output yoke doesn't just "slide off." Now I will need to see if AutoZone has some sort of puller that will get it off. Tried "lightly" tapping it with a rubber mallet but no-go.

Answer to Blue-Ultra RTV: I was going to use it for the case... Is that bad?

Answer to Snap Ring and Lock Ring Pliers: Yes, I purchased the LARGEST of both that Sears sells. The main snap and lock rings came off very easily.

Answer to "How did you preorder your driveshaft" : Offroad Toy Store had me take a measurement from the back of the harmonic ballancer to the center of the rear diff U-joint. It was 18 1/8". They sent me a 15 1/2" (fully compressed) DS. Based on what I have read most of the lengths after the SYE install with a RE 3.5" SF lift the distance between the ujoints is 16 - 17". We will see when I am done....

Unless I figure something out to get the front yoke off it's off to AutoZone

Here is where I am at:

ttp://www.team-lan.com/Coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/TJ_SYE_Install_04.JPG

Note: The rust looking pump and T-case is NOT rust. It's the reflection from my lightbulb shop light

http://www.team-lan.com/Coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/TJ_SYE_Install_02.JPG

Other than the front Yoke it's going pretty smoothly.

NOTE: There was VERY little RTV on the small rear case.

Overdrive · 03-09-2007, 07:00 PM

Went to AutoZone and picked up a 2 jaw universal 5 ton puller for the front yoke. It came right off with a few turns.

5:30 PM Progress:

Pic of old & new:

http://www.team-lan.com/Coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/TJ_SYE_Install_06.JPG

Half way there !

Coldfever · 03-09-2007, 07:21 PM

Great pics, brings back memories of a few months back when I did mine. The hardest part for me was putting back on the cover and keeping the oil pump secure. Good luck for the rest of the way!

koheed · 03-09-2007, 08:33 PM

You've inspired me!! This upgrade is in the very near future for my TJ. Just curious as to where you ordered the SYE from.

sa_9933 · 03-09-2007, 08:51 PM

Did you read in the install directions, where it said that you may have to trim the shift rail? did you are anyone else reading this have to do that? Also, how long did it take you to complete the project?

Testykalz · 03-09-2007, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sa_9933

Did you read in the install directions, where it said that you may have to trim the shift rail? did you are anyone else reading this have to do that? Also, how long did it take you to complete the project?

I was suppose to trim a shift rail!? haha I don't think the instructions in my kit said anything about that.

Dogman · 03-09-2007, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sa_9933

Did you read in the install directions, where it said that you may have to trim the shift rail? did you are anyone else reading this have to do that? Also, how long did it take you to complete the project?

I think that might for XJs or some other model.

sa_9933 · 03-09-2007, 09:09 PM

yeah for the AA short shaft fixed yoke kit , on page 9 on the lower left corner of the page it says that some np231 transfer cases require the shift rail to be trimmed because i protrudes out of the transfer case into the tail housing. if it sticks out more than 1 inch, you are supposed to trim it with a hacksaw or cutting wheel.
Just curious if anyone took the time to read and then measure it to see if it was necessary on their install. I am planning to do mine tomorrow and i am just going over the install paper work and getting all the tools ready to go.

sa_9933 · 03-09-2007, 09:10 PM

ok, i didn't want to sound retarded, like i made it up or something.

sa_9933 · 03-09-2007, 09:12 PM

sorry still new to the jeep life, trying to soak up all the info i can so that i can avoid problems that others ran into

03-09-2007, 03:13 PM	#2
kizer Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Marysville Wa. North of Seattle Posts: 1,588 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps iTrader Rating	Make sure you have a good pair of snap ring pliers. Other than that its an easy project. __________________ Links4Jeeps.com 1600+ Write-ups, and more My Writeups \| My Heap

03-09-2007, 05:36 PM	#6
Overdrive Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chandler, Arizona Posts: 211 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps iTrader Rating	Update Update: 4:30 PM. Gotcha #3: The front output yoke doesn't just "slide off." Now I will need to see if AutoZone has some sort of puller that will get it off. Tried "lightly" tapping it with a rubber mallet but no-go. Answer to Blue-Ultra RTV: I was going to use it for the case... Is that bad? Answer to Snap Ring and Lock Ring Pliers: Yes, I purchased the LARGEST of both that Sears sells. The main snap and lock rings came off very easily. Answer to "How did you preorder your driveshaft" : Offroad Toy Store had me take a measurement from the back of the harmonic ballancer to the center of the rear diff U-joint. It was 18 1/8". They sent me a 15 1/2" (fully compressed) DS. Based on what I have read most of the lengths after the SYE install with a RE 3.5" SF lift the distance between the ujoints is 16 - 17". We will see when I am done.... Unless I figure something out to get the front yoke off it's off to AutoZone Here is where I am at: ttp://www.team-lan.com/Coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/TJ_SYE_Install_04.JPG Note: The rust looking pump and T-case is NOT rust. It's the reflection from my lightbulb shop light http://www.team-lan.com/Coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/TJ_SYE_Install_02.JPG Other than the front Yoke it's going pretty smoothly. NOTE: There was VERY little RTV on the small rear case. Last edited by Overdrive : 03-09-2007 at 05:47 PM.

03-09-2007, 07:00 PM	#7
Overdrive Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chandler, Arizona Posts: 211 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps iTrader Rating	Update #2 Went to AutoZone and picked up a 2 jaw universal 5 ton puller for the front yoke. It came right off with a few turns. 5:30 PM Progress: Pic of old & new: http://www.team-lan.com/Coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/TJ_SYE_Install_06.JPG Half way there !

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Testykalz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 408 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps iTrader Rating	Way too organized! lol Other than having good snap ring pliers like stated above, it is pretty straight forward. __________________ [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=1]Word up.[/SIZE] [/FONT] [B]Black Jeep Club V2.0 Member #40[/B]

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sa_9933 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Council Bluffs, IA Posts: 240 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps iTrader Rating	Did you read in the install directions, where it said that you may have to trim the shift rail? did you are anyone else reading this have to do that? Also, how long did it take you to complete the project?

03-09-2007, 09:09 PM	#13
sa_9933 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Council Bluffs, IA Posts: 240 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps iTrader Rating	yeah for the AA short shaft fixed yoke kit , on page 9 on the lower left corner of the page it says that some np231 transfer cases require the shift rail to be trimmed because i protrudes out of the transfer case into the tail housing. if it sticks out more than 1 inch, you are supposed to trim it with a hacksaw or cutting wheel. Just curious if anyone took the time to read and then measure it to see if it was necessary on their install. I am planning to do mine tomorrow and i am just going over the install paper work and getting all the tools ready to go.

03-09-2007, 09:10 PM	#14
sa_9933 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Council Bluffs, IA Posts: 240 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps iTrader Rating	ok, i didn't want to sound retarded, like i made it up or something.

03-09-2007, 09:12 PM	#15
sa_9933 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Council Bluffs, IA Posts: 240 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps iTrader Rating	sorry still new to the jeep life, trying to soak up all the info i can so that i can avoid problems that others ran into