Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Nashua, New Hampshire
JB- That article is correct in many ways, and wrong in others. First, I have nothing to sell, I'm a projects type of person looking for help here at JF- I've done research that has proven my skepticism wrong, and have taken theory into practice. I'm not sure if my previous project is running on magic, but here is what I understand is at play. The first law of T/D is true, I'm not one who can speak to disproving that... 'It is what it is'. But let me offer you a though about how I've come to learn how this works. Take gasoline... have you ever burned it right on top of a fire? It's pretty explosive, burns quickly. Have you ever done the same with diesel? It's just the opposite, 'if' you can get it to burn, it's not as explosive, but burns MUCH hotter. What if you mix the two? It's a great bonfire starter. It burns HOT, and is much less explosive (depending on the concentration of course). Now how about the same ideas applied with highly explosive gases? I haven't taken hydrogen nor oxygen in pure form and seen how they burn/explode. BUT....I do know they explode and are quite efficient in their burning. What I have been able to do in my previous project is create a low power consuming electrolysis process to create my HHO gas. I use 12v @ 6 amps pumped through my generator with a highly efficient electrolyte to aid in the electrical conduction thru the fluid/water. It creates about 1~2 liters of HHO gas per minute. This gets pumped into the intake manifold and burns at the same time as the gasoline. So what I am seeing happen, is gasoline plus hydrogen and extra oxygen are added to the burn chamber. In the added concentration, it causes the gasoline to burn MUCH more efficiently, creating a little more power, less gasoline consumption, and with the addition of the HHO, when burned and passed through the catalytic converter, out the tail pipe is the water that went into the process.
I certainly have no interest in claiming I'm a scientist (far from it), but I didn't think this was possible, but all the 'science' I've research shows that with a low amperage, high efficient HHO generator, you can cause your gasoline to burn more efficiently, in turn, needing less gas to travel the same distance. Now the 2nd half of the project needs to be talked about. Since the ECM is looking for oxygen sensors to tell the system it is burning 14.7:1 A/F, you need to do some trickery to get a leaner running engine to reduce the fuel input. Do this by raising the coolant sensor and the intake temp sensor, these cause the ECM of a car to lean our the Air/fule ratios. Then, retard the timing some to get a more efficient burn in the cylinder. if you can get these items in check, then you just need to do a little trickery on the O2 sensors so they don't tell the ECU there is a lean condition. These last steps are accomplished with the EFIE. I had to do a lot of reading to learn all about this, but I hope this summary 'might' make sense... I felt it 'could' make sense in reality, so I gave it a shot, and found it's possible!
Trying to do this with a Jeep is worth it IMHO. They are fun, easy to work on, and the benefit is hopefully simple cash in my pocket. I get frustrated with people who think they know everything, and this topic is a touchy one I have come to learn- My response to many is put the time in to ask questions, learn, understand, rather then assume answers. The biggest thing I found about the research is that there is not a 'ton' of websites out there to offer this technology. Only did I learn why... is that there are VERY large corporations with hundreds of billions to lose if oil is used less, while using that big money to keep stuff like this quiet. They are not afraid to but pressure on websites and independent small businesses trying new things in this field.
I'm hoping to find a device that help in the tuning process, read the sensor data and allow for the necessary modifications to the ECM. Like I noted, I came here for help, and it's difficult getting bullied around on a message board sometimes.