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post #1 of 69 Old 12-10-2016, 11:59 PM Thread Starter
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Super 35 or D44?

Looking to get lockers and regear. Only problem is I have the weak d30/d35 combo... I don't rock crawl but I go on some muddy trails with moderate flex. I know how to drive my little 2.4l but it would be helpful for lockers. Should I upgrade to a super 35 kit? Or look out for a d44?. I would have to wait awhile as my area of Minneapolis is not popular for jeep parts ha. That's why I am leaning towards the super 35 kit. Suggestions? Also trying to stay as budget friendly as possible. (Aren't we all?! Lol) college tuition is kicking my ***


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post #2 of 69 Old 12-11-2016, 12:14 AM
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Personally, I wouldn't throw any $$ @ a re-gear or a duper 5 kit. Save your money and time for a 44 or 8.8. My .o2

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Personally, I wouldn't throw any $$ @ a re-gear or a duper 5 kit. Save your money and time for a 44 or 8.8. My .o2


But I would have to regear right away if I go with a d44. My stock gearing is 4.11 in my SE. Also I would have to spend on a new drive shaft with a 44. Thanks for opinion though. I'm so lost. Really envying all those rubicon's right about now lol.


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And I can't find a single 44 in the tribstate area on craigslist and scrap yards want the same price as eBay ($2000). Bad time for an upgrade I guess ha


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That's why I said "save your money".

Actually, if you're patient and have no qualms about the 8.8... they can be found in 4.10. And yes... a Rubi D44 would be just right!
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Lock the front and leave the rear open. I've seen people around here with 4 bangers, bashing their d35 with 33's and never break them. I'd just upgrade the shafts until you decide to spend a good chunk of change.

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Lock the front and leave the rear open. I've seen people around here with 4 bangers, bashing their d35 with 33's and never break them. I'd just upgrade the shafts until you decide to spend a good chunk of change.

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Ok good info thanks. So if I install a locker in the front diff with my 4.10 gears, can I easily upgrade to 4.88 later and keep the same locker? Sorry if it's a dumb question I haven't touched gearing before
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Yes, but you're still talking about doing both axles later which is not cheap if you are going up in tire size. And you'll still need a different rear (assuming you are not going to do the turdy 5) A good selectable up front is nice. (but pricey) Pick your poison... but ya gotta start somewhere.
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ok that makes sense, so just for reference, if I were to upgrade both axles (my current 30/35) with 4.88 gears, and only put a locker in the front, can I switch those same gears I had in the 35 to the 44 I may find later down the road? or would the 44 take a different set of 4.88 gears? Thanks
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Super 35 or D44?

And I was thinking a spartan locker or lockrite for the front D30. I don't use 4wd on the roads and for the $$ it makes the most sense.


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post #11 of 69 Old 12-11-2016, 05:46 AM
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I just put an Aussie Locker in my front d30 which is in effect the same thing as the Spartan. It cost $259 and took 4 1/2 hours to install with no experience. It works great. You do hear some clicking in 2wd in turns but it's minor and doesn't bother me at all since I know what it is. In 4wd it clicks a lot more but that doesn't bother me either since it goes so well now, I love it so far.
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ok that makes sense, so just for reference, if I were to upgrade both axles (my current 30/35) with 4.88 gears, and only put a locker in the front, can I switch those same gears I had in the 35 to the 44 I may find later down the road? or would the 44 take a different set of 4.88 gears? Thanks
the gear sets for 35 and 44 are not interchangeable

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Looking to get lockers and regear. Only problem is I have the weak d30/d35 combo... I don't rock crawl but I go on some muddy trails with moderate flex. I know how to drive my little 2.4l but it would be helpful for lockers. Should I upgrade to a super 35 kit? Or look out for a d44?. I would have to wait awhile as my area of Minneapolis is not popular for jeep parts ha. That's why I am leaning towards the super 35 kit. Suggestions? Also trying to stay as budget friendly as possible. (Aren't we all?! Lol) college tuition is kicking my ***


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I'm no fan of the Dana 35 and won't ever run one but, they are a very maligned axle that if taken care of with smart driving and a Super kit, will serve you well. Nothing has better ground clearance or requires less work to upgrade that you can do.

We've been testing my helper's for a couple of years now.
To date we have run the following with no issues.
Sledgehammer x 2
Wrecking Ball x 2
Sunbonnet x 2
Outer Limits x 3
Spooner's Canyon
Boulderdash x 4
Clawhammer x 3
Upper and Lower Big Johnson x 2
Aftershock x 3
Turkey Claw too many times to remember because it is close to camp.
There is a rumor that they ran SOS while I stayed at camp one day but I can't verify. If you aren't familiar, those are trails in Johnson Valley. They are not wheel speed trails, they are technical, tough, and rocky and he doesn't drive like an idiot. Those are just the ones I've seen except for SOS which is why it is listed as a "rumor".

Most folks advising you to do something different very likely have no experience with a Super kit.

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post #14 of 69 Old 12-11-2016, 09:31 AM
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I get everywhere I want in the woods and fields with an Aussie up front and the ole factory D35 freewheeling behind. If I ever break something in the D35, I'll superize it and go forth new and improved from there.
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Most folks advising you to do something different very likely have no experience with a Super kit.
just for the record...

I ran a geared and locked 35 for almost 5 years on 33's. Wheeled it reasonably hard... nothing like hammers, but decent rock crawling... and had no issues. I also had a Superior truss on it (b/c of the weak tubes), which to my knowledge they do not make any more. Prolly had close to $1500 in it.
However, I knew I would eventually move up to 35's and needed to upgrade the rear axle, so it ended up selling for about $300. WooHoo!

My point initially was that it is money I wasted on the dumb thing (even tho I never broke it) from the get-go that I could have spent on a better axle in the first place.

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