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Unread 04-14-2015, 09:05 PM   #1
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"Sunrider" soft top on the freeway

I'm considering pulling the trigger and buying a soft top that lets you fold back the front, i.e. the "sunrider" position.

My main use of this will be driving to/from work, and if its a nice day, just flip back the top, rather than taking down the entire soft top. However, my commute consists purely of freeway driving. I have been reading that its not advised drive > 50 MPH with the top folded back in the sun rider position.

I came across a thread by someone who claims they fixed it:
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/tr...nt-150756.html

However, I *don't* want to take out my windows, I want to keep them on. Essentially, I want to keep my doors on, windows up and everything, just flip back the top and drive on the freeway. Anyone do this? I don't want to spend $1k on the top, only to have it flapping madly, especially since that's the main reason I want it.

Also: I've got to say I'm not a fan of the look of the Trektop NX -- I don't like how its slanted at the back. I much prefer the boxy square look of the factory soft top. Are there any soft tops with the sun rider feature + original factory look? I think the original Bestop Sunrider does this, but I've heard its being discontinued (?)

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Unread 04-14-2015, 09:27 PM   #2
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You can get by with the windows on, but you should unzip the back window and roll it up. Otherwise the top becomes like a big parachute and it puts some stress on the back window.
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Unread 04-14-2015, 09:37 PM   #3
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So the only way it is really usable is to roll up the back window?
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I wouldn't suggest running it with the windows on while on the highway. I have hit 70mph without windows and the front flipped back, but it still seemed like it was too much for the top. <55mph with windows on has been fine with mine, but anything above 60 is pushing it
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Ah... that's pretty disappointing. This is one of the main reasons I wanted to get a soft top in the first place. There's no way to secure it in place?
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Its not really a matter of securing it… it is more that it will beat itself to death and eventually get torn up.

Definitely want the back window down. I have left my rear windows on at 65 mph and it wasn't a problem. But you do have to make some allowances. There is a lot of force rom the wind. If the windows are out, then you can go 75 if you want. It won't be instant death for your top, but it will be flopping.

I love my sun rider and have used it for many years with a 20 mile highway commute. The time difference between going 65 and 75 mph on a 20 mile commute is only 2 minutes. That is 2 more minutes that you can enjoy having your cool sun rider top!
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Ah... that's pretty disappointing. This is one of the main reasons I wanted to get a soft top in the first place. There's no way to secure it in place?
If that's the only reason you want a soft top, then I suggest you install a sunroof in your hardtop with removable glass.
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I haven't had any issues with the back with my Bestop Sunrider at highway speeds and the windows on.

I have had issues where the top will disconnect from the velcro on the door surrounds and flap if the doors are not on. The biggest annoyance though is the top does not stay inserted in the header when the header is not attached to the windshield.
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Understand if you don't like the look, but I've had both the Sunrider and now the Trektop NX, and the latter is better in most every respect. HATED those stupid door surrounds in the Sunrider, and it was louder too. And I had the same problem rikkards had, although I eventually screwed the front flap to the header. That sort of worked.

OTOH, the sunrider feature on the Trektop NX requires you to pop the front half out of the door surrounds and that's not particularly easy unless you just leave them out. They need pull tabs. I end up using a small flathead screwdriver to pop them out.
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Understand if you don't like the look, but I've had both the Sunrider and now the Trektop NX, and the latter is better in most every respect. HATED those stupid door surrounds in the Sunrider, and it was louder too. And I had the same problem rikkards had, although I eventually screwed the front flap to the header. That sort of worked.

OTOH, the sunrider feature on the Trektop NX requires you to pop the front half out of the door surrounds and that's not particularly easy unless you just leave them out. They need pull tabs. I end up using a small flathead screwdriver to pop them out.
The documentation states it should click in but it seems like whatever is supposed to "click" is not pronounced enough or the slot in the header is too tight to get it in that far.
Once I have to replace the top I may look at the Trektop NX.
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I have not had the problem of the top pulling out of the header. My top is pretty old. I am the second owner… I think the first guy bought the top with the Jeep. Maybe they made them better back then? I don't know.
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Its not really a matter of securing it… it is more that it will beat itself to death and eventually get torn up.

Definitely want the back window down. I have left my rear windows on at 65 mph and it wasn't a problem. But you do have to make some allowances. There is a lot of force rom the wind. If the windows are out, then you can go 75 if you want. It won't be instant death for your top, but it will be flopping.

I love my sun rider and have used it for many years with a 20 mile highway commute. The time difference between going 65 and 75 mph on a 20 mile commute is only 2 minutes. That is 2 more minutes that you can enjoy having your cool sun rider top!
Which top do you have, Trektop or Supertop? I understand there is a difference between the two.
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Which top do you have, Trektop or Supertop? I understand there is a difference between the two.
Supertop I believe. It came with the Jeep when I bought it in about 2003. The guy I bought it from was the first owner and I'm pretty sure he got the top when he bought the Jeep new in 1999. Back then I don't think the Trektop existed, but I could be wrong.
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I never remove any of my windows for the sunrider on my LJ I unzip both sides of the rear window, and unzip the rear portion of my side windows to allow the air pressure to escape.
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[…] unzip the rear portion of my side windows to allow the air pressure to escape.
Good idea! I never thought of trying that. I always just take them all the way off.
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