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Unread 06-14-2007, 12:47 AM   #46
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I wouldn't bother wasting $$$ or much thought energy over which rear brakes to install that rear axle. Rear brakes provide such a low percentage of the overall braking, 10-20% at most, that it just doesn't pay to spend big $$$ or waste a lot of time worrying about rear brakes. In the rear, heck, even old technology drum brakes still work very well.

Now if this were for the front axle, yeah upgrading the brakes is very much worth extra $$$ and time to upgrade them.

Yeah, this what is what I'm thinking. Which is why I'm wanting to keep stock brakes back there if I can. Either that, or something non-custom, that I can pick up at the auto parts store.

I'm probably going to have to contact them on this. Hopefully get a cahnce to later today.

Nobody ever answered the question as to: if the Wilwoods aren't strong enough to handle stock pressures, why they'd be used?

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Unread 06-14-2007, 06:55 AM   #47
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the R&P is still D44 tho. for that price you might as well put that tubing and beefy alloy stuff in a 9", D60 or better yet, 9/D60 hybrid.
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Unread 06-14-2007, 07:18 AM   #48
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Nobody ever answered the question as to: if the Wilwoods aren't strong enough to handle stock pressures, why they'd be used?
The only reason you could get away with it is because the pressure to the rear brakes is not as high as to the front.

Max to the rear is more than likely right around what they can handle due to the prop valve.

But if you're interested, I have a complete set I adapted onto TJ knuckles that I removed from my wife's rig.
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Unread 06-14-2007, 07:21 AM   #49
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the R&P is still D44 tho. for that price you might as well put that tubing and beefy alloy stuff in a 9", D60 or better yet, 9/D60 hybrid.
That price?
Find me a complete bolt in (or even anything remotely close to bolt in) like what you mention for $3G's.
Pricing regular D44's with an ARB and brakes usually hits near 3 everytime I look.
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Unread 06-14-2007, 09:45 AM   #50
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I've been wondering the same thing (see second post). I would guess the 35 spline shaft is too large for the standard backing plate, which wouldn't allow the ZJ/TJ brakes to bolt up without major modifications.

Stock brakes (I have drums) bolt up just fine. I installed Alloy 35 Spline shafts and an ARB in my 44 just a couple of weeks ago.
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New HD D44 "Goodness" being installed as we speak!



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Unread 07-03-2007, 11:37 AM   #52
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That's very nice looking. You might consider getting a 90 degree fitting that screws into the caliper and pointing the brake line at the axle tube to keep it out of harm's way.

BTW- I looked at the Wilwood parking brake assembly yesterday and it's a copy of Ford Explorer rear assembly. The only thing you need to be careful of is to keep an eye on the caliper mount bolts. The backing plate is aluminum and they loosen from time to time and need to have new loctite applied to the cap screws and re-tightened. Other than that, it's a good part.
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Might want to get button head bolts for your cover, the bottom 3 get round down and you can't always get a socket on the other ones, at least on my Rockcrushers
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I'd rather spend the 3k for a D60, with an ARB custom fitted, then the solid D44..

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What is a custom fitted arb?
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What is a custom fitted arb?
i hope they are all custom fitted...
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I'd rather spend the 3k for a D60, with an ARB custom fitted, then the solid D44..

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How much clearence will you loose though by going with a dana 60? I'd also like to see someone come up with the price of a shaved Dana 60 with alloy shafts, rear discs, ARB, Diff cover and 60" WMS to WMS. Seriously I'm not sure of the price but I can't imagine one being cheaper then that 44.
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I'll keep my 8.8 with alloy shafts for much cheaper thank you. That is a seriously nice axle though.
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Not that anyone cares, but I have to get new Upper Control Arms in order to get the pinion angle right... so with the Holiday, it looks like Thursday before the Axle Install is finished...

Also needed newer style E-Brake lines and I think I'm going to go ahead and do the Adj Rear Track bar at the same time...

Uggg, an extra $400-$500 that I wasn't planning on, but I guess it's stuff that I was going to eventually install anyhow...

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