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Unread 06-11-2007, 06:47 AM   #31
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I have been looking into upgrading my axles for some time... every build price I come up with is between 3200-3500 bucks that is ready to bold on. so is this a deal... most def!

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Unread 06-11-2007, 07:18 AM   #32
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This seems great to me.
Anyone know anything about these Wilwood brakes? Any good? Replacing worn parts going to be difficult?
Currie sells the Wilwood brakes, I have no idea if they are any good.
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Unread 06-11-2007, 10:17 AM   #33
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This seems great to me.
Anyone know anything about these Wilwood brakes? Any good? Replacing worn parts going to be difficult?
Wilwood is fine for manual assist master cylinders (can't go over 1,100 lbs of pressure). If you plan on having a vacuum booster or hydroboost don't do it. You will flex those calipers something fierce. Whenever you're building a rig with oversize tires you need a 1 piece caliper (Wilwoods are 2 pieces bolted together).

I've already had quite a few guys spend way more then my kit on wilwoods calipers, rotors, pads etc and ended up throwing it all away to put on one of my kits.

Trust me, wilwood and built up rigs (33+ tires) do not get along.
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Unread 06-11-2007, 10:26 AM   #34
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Unread 06-11-2007, 10:40 AM   #35
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No, there'll be no boosters of any sort going to my brakes any time soon.
I like your kit for the front. Might have to get one...but need a rear axle first.
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Unread 06-11-2007, 10:47 AM   #36
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No, there'll be no boosters of any sort going to my brakes any time soon.
So you are removing the stock vacuum booster? I believe it generates about (or slightly more than) 1600 lbs of pressure. That is stock, no hydroboost.


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Wilwood is fine for manual assist master cylinders (can't go over 1,100 lbs of pressure). If you plan on having a vacuum booster or hydroboost don't do it.
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Unread 06-11-2007, 01:52 PM   #37
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Oh. My bad.
I know jack about brakes really. I've never done ANY brakes.
In that case, these Wilwood things are crap??
Why bother put them on such an axle then?
If Wilwood's can't take stock pressures, why didn't/don't Solid Axle just put stockers on? Gotta be cheaper...no?
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Unread 06-11-2007, 02:03 PM   #38
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If Wilwood's can't take stock pressures, why didn't/don't Solid Axle just put stockers on? Gotta be cheaper...no?
I've been wondering the same thing (see second post). I would guess the 35 spline shaft is too large for the standard backing plate, which wouldn't allow the ZJ/TJ brakes to bolt up without major modifications.
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Unread 06-11-2007, 02:46 PM   #39
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Wilwood is fine for manual assist master cylinders (can't go over 1,100 lbs of pressure). If you plan on having a vacuum booster or hydroboost don't do it. You will flex those calipers something fierce. Whenever you're building a rig with oversize tires you need a 1 piece caliper (Wilwoods are 2 pieces bolted together).

I've already had quite a few guys spend way more then my kit on wilwoods calipers, rotors, pads etc and ended up throwing it all away to put on one of my kits.

Trust me, wilwood and built up rigs (33+ tires) do not get along.

Call up Solid Axle and give them a better deal than Wilwood is on the rear brakes...
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Unread 06-13-2007, 06:06 AM   #40
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so???

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Unread 06-13-2007, 06:47 AM   #41
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Wilwoods are fantastic brakes and normally found in cars and on the race circuit. I've run Wilwoods for years. I'm not sure that they are "right" for off roading because of the issues listed here, but my Mustang has a heck of a lot of braking power to scrub off 160mph in a few hundred feet. Can't say what the boost press is, though.

Along those lines, don't forget that this brake kit is probably $500-$800. If you can get them to install a factory brake kit on the rear, or better yet, confirm that your factory brakes will work on this axle, then ask for a quote with no brakes. Then you're looking at closer to a $2500 axle and bolting-on your stock brakes is easy.....even you could do it. Sorry, had to jab ya a little.
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Unread 06-13-2007, 08:19 AM   #42
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Wilwoods are fantastic brakes and normally found in cars and on the race circuit. I've run Wilwoods for years. I'm not sure that they are "right" for off roading because of the issues listed here, but my Mustang has a heck of a lot of braking power to scrub off 160mph in a few hundred feet. Can't say what the boost press is, though.

Along those lines, don't forget that this brake kit is probably $500-$800. If you can get them to install a factory brake kit on the rear, or better yet, confirm that your factory brakes will work on this axle, then ask for a quote with no brakes. Then you're looking at closer to a $2500 axle and bolting-on your stock brakes is easy.....even you could do it. Sorry, had to jab ya a little.

Yeah, this is what I'm wondering as I'm pretty sold on the axle other than the concerns of these brakes. I think I'd even RATHER have stock brakes, as it's a rear axle and then upgrade my fronts down the road a little.
Anyone know if they do this?? Or if the stock brakes will fit??
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Unread 06-13-2007, 08:36 AM   #43
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Yeah, this is what I'm wondering as I'm pretty sold on the axle other than the concerns of these brakes. I think I'd even RATHER have stock brakes, as it's a rear axle and then upgrade my fronts down the road a little.
Anyone know if they do this?? Or if the stock brakes will fit??
Which brakes fit is determined by the housing end they used when they built the axle.

If they used the Dana 44 housing end, then stock TJ rear discs and drums will bolt up. The only concern then becomes the spacing of the bearing journal on the axle shaft.
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Unread 06-13-2007, 04:30 PM   #44
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Yeah, this is what I'm wondering as I'm pretty sold on the axle other than the concerns of these brakes. I think I'd even RATHER have stock brakes, as it's a rear axle and then upgrade my fronts down the road a little.
Anyone know if they do this?? Or if the stock brakes will fit??
Call them and ask for the details. I'm sure they'd offer the kit without the brakes. If nothing else, you could always put a stock brake setup from something that will fit the axle....once again, they would know.
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Unread 06-13-2007, 04:48 PM   #45
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I wouldn't bother wasting $$$ or much thought energy over which rear brakes to install that rear axle. Rear brakes provide such a low percentage of the overall braking, 10-20% at most, that it just doesn't pay to spend big $$$ or waste a lot of time worrying about rear brakes. In the rear, heck, even old technology drum brakes still work very well.

Now if this were for the front axle, yeah upgrading the brakes is very much worth extra $$$ and time to upgrade them.
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