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Unread 08-06-2012, 09:52 AM   #781
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I had a few questions on a Tummy Tuck Iíve been wanting to do for a while now. I've got most of the bases covered, already have a rear CV shaft etc.

I obtained one of the old Jeep Medic skids locally from a friend and cleaned it up and painted it. Itís been sitting for a while now because I wanted to do it as part of some suspension modifications. Now that Iím getting very close to that point, I was wondering what exactly is involved with putting a high clearance skid on without doing a BL/MML. I have the body and motor mount lift sitting here, I would just like to put the skid on without installing them if possible.

I know that you may have to possibly clearance the tub depending on the skid. The Jeep Medic skid as far as I know isnít necessarily as high clearance as the highest UCF, but it is still far higher than the factory skid. I donít have a problem with clearancing the tub since you most likely will never see where it has been clearanced. But, I was wondering are we talking a few dimples here and there, or beating the tub to death with a hammer in quite a ways?

Another concern I have, is that my rocker guards sandwich between the body mounts, and with the way the JKS body lift installs Iím thinking it might move my rocker guards and require me to re-drill the mounting holes on the side of the tub.

It would be great to hear from someone who installed a Jeep Medic skid or has one just to get an idea of how high it really stuffs the transfer case up there. From my understand Iíll need at least a quarter of an inch between any transfer case surface and the tub.

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Unread 08-06-2012, 11:08 AM   #782
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You need the body lift mounts from Gen-Right.
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Unread 08-06-2012, 11:10 AM   #783
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I had a few questions on a Tummy Tuck Iíve been wanting to do for a while now. I've got most of the bases covered, already have a rear CV shaft etc.

I obtained one of the old Jeep Medic skids locally from a friend and cleaned it up and painted it. Itís been sitting for a while now because I wanted to do it as part of some suspension modifications. Now that Iím getting very close to that point, I was wondering what exactly is involved with putting a high clearance skid on without doing a BL/MML. I have the body and motor mount lift sitting here, I would just like to put the skid on without installing them if possible.

I know that you may have to possibly clearance the tub depending on the skid. The Jeep Medic skid as far as I know isnít necessarily as high clearance as the highest UCF, but it is still far higher than the factory skid. I donít have a problem with clearancing the tub since you most likely will never see where it has been clearanced. But, I was wondering are we talking a few dimples here and there, or beating the tub to death with a hammer in quite a ways?

Another concern I have, is that my rocker guards sandwich between the body mounts, and with the way the JKS body lift installs Iím thinking it might move my rocker guards and require me to re-drill the mounting holes on the side of the tub.

It would be great to hear from someone who installed a Jeep Medic skid or has one just to get an idea of how high it really stuffs the transfer case up there. From my understand Iíll need at least a quarter of an inch between any transfer case surface and the tub.

I haven't had any experience with Jeep Medic skids, but if you do some measuring you might be able to get a ruff idea of where your transfer case will end up at under the jeep.

I have an AEV skid, which does not need a body lift to install. A big part of the reason why a body lift is not needed is the low profile transmission mount.

AEV and UCF both have low profile mounts, it basically raises the skid without having to raise the transmission/transfer case as much as it would with the factory mount.

I'm sure either would work, you just might have to modify the skid plate, or maybe it will just work.

As far as modifying the tub, it's different with every skid and every transmission, usually it's just a little bit. AEV ships there skids with a piece of pipe cut in half so you can place it between the transmission and tub and jack the transmission up into the tub until it dimples the tub. I did not have to do this with a 32rh 3 speed auto trans. My cat did come in contact with the skid, they had 2 models, a round one and an oval one, I ended up getting rid of my 3rd cat, some people replaced there's with the more oval model.

Hope that points you in the right direction.
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Unread 08-06-2012, 11:53 AM   #784
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You need the body lift mounts from Gen-Right.
You mean the actual weld on mounts that move the entire body mount up on the frame? Crap. So there is not normal puck style body lift out there that would work with my rocker guards? Maybe I could put them on top of the lift pucks? Man, that's kind of disheartening news, I wasn't looking to get into that much work.
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Unread 08-06-2012, 01:01 PM   #785
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TroubleNEO - I made my 1.5" body mounts on the chop saw out of the cheap 3" ones you can get from Summit.
If your 3 along each side need to be a slightly different length than the other 5, to accomodate your rockers, just get some 3" ones and cut them down:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PRA-MB03/
Just be careful to clamp them in nice and tight before you try cutting them.
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Unread 08-30-2012, 05:02 PM   #786
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Yeah, no vibes, for now.

14" at the belly (no lift & 32" tires). almost 3" higher & over 20lbs. less than the stock skid.
only other thing was modifying the 4x4 shifter cause it was a little wacked.



So how did it turn out? I also have a 98 TJ SE ( completely stock with 31's ). I'm thinking about doing a 1.25" BL, 1" MML and UCF UHC skid system. Did you need SYE / Shaft and rear adj. upper CA's?
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Unread 08-30-2012, 06:14 PM   #787
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Yeah, no vibes, for now.

14" at the belly (no lift & 32" tires). almost 3" higher & over 20lbs. less than the stock skid.
only other thing was modifying the 4x4 shifter cause it was a little wacked.
What all did you do to make that happen?
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Unread 08-30-2012, 06:27 PM   #788
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Unread 08-31-2012, 12:48 PM   #789
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2.5L, 5 speed.
1" brown dog mounts, 1.5" body lift, UCF ultra high clearance skid
Stock suspension (springs, shocks, & all 8 arms), no lift, no SYE.
The 4WD shifter moved in relation to the bracket it sits in, so the 'catch' where it goes into 4LO isn't in the right spot. 4" cutoff wheel until it worked right.
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Unread 08-31-2012, 12:52 PM   #790
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2.5L, 5 speed.
1" brown dog mounts, 1.5" body lift, UCF ultra high clearance skid
Stock suspension (springs, shocks, & all 8 arms), no lift, no SYE.
The 4WD shifter moved in relation to the bracket it sits in, so the 'catch' where it goes into 4LO isn't in the right spot. 4" cutoff wheel until it worked right.
man thats awesome, i cant afford a lift right now, and don't really need one for my current wheeling i do, but getting everything up and armored and flat would be awesome. You have inspired me to go this route and then when the time comes for lift, i'll be ahead and tucked. Thank you for your info and help

i understand that every Jeep is different, and if i do receive vibes then SYE, Shaft, and rear adj. upper CA's will be a must. Fingers crossed though haha.
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Unread 08-31-2012, 01:22 PM   #791
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man thats awesome, i cant afford a lift right now, and don't really need one for my current wheeling i do, but getting everything up and armored and flat would be awesome. You have inspired me to go this route and then when the time comes for lift, i'll be ahead and tucked. Thank you for your info and help

i understand that every Jeep is different, and if i do receive vibes then SYE, Shaft, and rear adj. upper CA's will be a must. Fingers crossed though haha.
Or if there very light vibs you can cheat the skid down with washers until the vibs go away.

The AEV tummy tuck does not require a body lift or motor mount lift, so if you had a stock jeep and installed only the AEV tummy tuck you would need nothing else.

UCF most likely has something similar with the use of there Low profile mount.
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Unread 08-31-2012, 02:12 PM   #792
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Or if there very light vibs you can cheat the skid down with washers until the vibs go away.

The AEV tummy tuck does not require a body lift or motor mount lift, so if you had a stock jeep and installed only the AEV tummy tuck you would need nothing else.

UCF most likely has something similar with the use of there Low profile mount.
Awesome info, thank you . I'm in the process of research, research, research, lots of options.
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Unread 08-31-2012, 02:41 PM   #793
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Awesome info, thank you . I'm in the process of research, research, research, lots of options.
That's the best way to go, seriously read this thread from start to finish, take your time do it over a week, you'll get a lot of info out of it.

The best way to do it is to figure out where you wanna be in the end and don't make any modifications that you will have to remove later. It sucks buying things twice.
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Unread 09-06-2012, 04:29 PM   #794
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So recently I installed a UCF ultra hi t-case skid and need to address some issues. My shock are dam near the coil buckets so should I notch the bucket or relocate shock location? And my rear trac bar is bound because of the rear upper control arms being adjusted for the proper pinion angle. So can I modify my drop down bracket I have by heating and bending it? I`m kind of tapped out after all the upgrades so not looking to spend alot right now. Thanks
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Unread 09-06-2012, 05:59 PM   #795
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So recently I installed a UCF ultra hi t-case skid and need to address some issues. My shock are dam near the coil buckets so should I notch the bucket or relocate shock location? And my rear trac bar is bound because of the rear upper control arms being adjusted for the proper pinion angle. So can I modify my drop down bracket I have by heating and bending it? I`m kind of tapped out after all the upgrades so not looking to spend alot right now. Thanks
Grind down the back of spring buckets. Might be able to modify bracket but a new angled one shouldn't be that expensive.
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