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post #601 of 1106 Old 04-03-2011, 10:33 PM
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Or an engine skid for a 97-02 4cyl
X2 I need one for my 4cyl to go with my nice UCF TT!


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post #602 of 1106 Old 04-12-2011, 03:51 PM
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One issues not mentioned is....
How does a Tummy Tuck, effect the transmission gear shifter?
After changing the engine/transmission/transfer case, location, height, and angle, on the 5-speed transmission.

I know that with a 1" MML, 1" BL, 2" TT Skid(Lowpro Mount & UCF Ultra High clearance skid), requires changes and attention to the T-Case linkage,
best and easiest solution is a Novak T-Case cable conversion kit.

I've never actually see or heard of how the shifter links to the transmission, and whether such changes require attention.

I'm assuming since nothing is mentioned about it, at most, a slight change or position in the shifter stick would be the only change, with a 5-Speed?
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post #603 of 1106 Old 04-12-2011, 08:37 PM
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Great write up ... I've only owned my Jeep for a few months and i am still researching what to do for wheeling ... my question is how does a tummy tuck effect an LCG lift/tire combo ... I'm thinking final product of 3-4 inch suspension lift with 37 inch tires ... and other mods to make this possible
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post #604 of 1106 Old 05-16-2011, 01:07 PM
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One issues not mentioned is....
How does a Tummy Tuck, effect the transmission gear shifter?
After changing the engine/transmission/transfer case, location, height, and angle, on the 5-speed transmission.

I know that with a 1" MML, 1" BL, 2" TT Skid(Lowpro Mount & UCF Ultra High clearance skid), requires changes and attention to the T-Case linkage,
best and easiest solution is a Novak T-Case cable conversion kit.

I've never actually see or heard of how the shifter links to the transmission, and whether such changes require attention.

I'm assuming since nothing is mentioned about it, at most, a slight change or position in the shifter stick would be the only change, with a 5-Speed?
Thats what i want to know as well, Do i need to order a new cable shifter from Novak or will the Skyjacker one work?
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I will chime in with my tummy tuck set up. I am currently running 4" Rough Country Long Arm, 1" Body Lift, 1" Brown Dog MML, Undercover Fabworks Extra-Clearance Carbon Steel Skid Plate 3/16" thick, and UCF Lo Pro Mount.
The skid plate does have to be cut to fit around Rough Country's LA bracket set up. After installing the skid plate, my 4WD linkage was squeaking loud and binding bad, to the point where it would not lock or unlock. I ended up ordering the Lo Pro mount from UCF. It lowered the transmission 1" down into the skid plate. It stopped the 4WD from squeaking and helped the 4WD linkage disengage. 4LO still pops out, but 4HI works fine.
To fix this, I have been looking at either Novaks cable set up, or Advanced Adapters cable and shifter set up, links included below.
http://www.novak-adapt.com/catalog/shifters/sk2xc.htm
http://www.advanceadapters.com/products/tj-cable-shifter/

Overall, I am very impressed with UCF craftsmanship and detail and Brown Dogs MML. Their products are solid and I love how much the skid plate tucks up. Also - I did not have to make any modifications to the exhaust hangers.
The Lo Pro mount does required grinding the stock flange on the mounting bracket smooth, so an angle grinder is required, and a hole will need to be drilled through the skid plate to attach the Lo Pro Mount, which a bolt and nut and washers will need to be purchased from Lowes.
I have a ton of pics of the skid plate and Lo Pro mount in my build thread. Few pics here of the MML, Skid plate, and Lo Pro mount installed. Any questions let me know.
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One issues not mentioned is....
How does a Tummy Tuck, effect the transmission gear shifter?
After changing the engine/transmission/transfer case, location, height, and angle, on the 5-speed transmission.

I know that with a 1" MML, 1" BL, 2" TT Skid(Lowpro Mount & UCF Ultra High clearance skid), requires changes and attention to the T-Case linkage,
best and easiest solution is a Novak T-Case cable conversion kit.

I've never actually see or heard of how the shifter links to the transmission, and whether such changes require attention.

I'm assuming since nothing is mentioned about it, at most, a slight change or position in the shifter stick would be the only change, with a 5-Speed?
My linkage did change, the Lo Pro mount did help, but my 4LO still pops out. I more then likely just need to lengthen the "rod". My shifter did not change at all, its in the same position.

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Thats what i want to know as well, Do i need to order a new cable shifter from Novak or will the Skyjacker one work?
I have read on here that people still had problems with the Skyjacker and Advanced Adapters "brackets." They needed to be modified to fit around the top of the tub. The easiest and most practical set up would be Novaks or Advanced Adapters cable set up to eliminate the brackets and binding issues.

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Thats what i want to know as well, Do i need to order a new cable shifter from Novak or will the Skyjacker one work?
Isn't awalp asking about transmission shifter not TC shifter?

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Isn't awalp asking about transmission shifter not TC shifter?

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Isn't awalp asking about transmission shifter not TC shifter?
Yup transmission shifter, i had the skyjacker one in the box of junk so i put it on. I still pop out of 4low so i guess Novak shifter here i come.
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X2 I need one for my 4cyl to go with my nice UCF TT!
The prototyping for the 2.5 liter TJ engine skid is almost complete. I should be announcing it on the website in the next few days.

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The prototyping for the 2.5 liter TJ engine skid is almost complete. I should be announcing it on the website in the next few days.
Excellent, because that is what I have been waiting for. Still saving up. Going to do the SYE, CA's and TT all at once for the TJ.

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I have a further question after reading through this post. Already done jks 1.25"bl and brown dog 1"mml. If I'm not lifting jeep further ie. suspension for atleast time being. Do I need to any extra work? As I read it seems the other parts are to adjust the pinion and drivetrain vibrations as done for any lifts beyond 3". I already have metalcloak fenders thus need no further lift especially till I wear out current tires.
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I recently installed the AEV TT on my 1999 4.0, AX-15 5spd, 231 w/SYE, no body lift TJ. First, The AEV TT for my application was worth every penny. By following the detailed instructions it installed without any issues. It was a substantial improvement in ground clearance and "works" as advertised. I ran it in the "As-is" configuration on a 1K mile round trip through Black Mt OHV, Gold Mt OHV, and Windrock OHV with out any issue. I did make one slight adjustment post trip, the transmission shifter when shifting agressively into 1, 3, and 5 would sometimes make slight contact with the dash/switch panel. I simply pulled the shifter out and used a press to increase the bend to provide more clearance. Lastly, I mention this next item because I know there are some of you that are or will have T-case shift linkage issue with other manufacturer TT installs, this was not required with the AEV TT as long as you follow the instructions. I upgraded shortly after the trip to the Novak cable shifter purely for the sake of upgrade, READ: I did not NEED to do this because of the TT install. The Novak cable shifter is again worth every penny (half the price of AA's cable shifter) and installed with instructions flawlessly. The T-case shifts smoothly and easily no matter how twisted and flexed the TJ may be. I highly reccomend (who the hell am I) the Novak cable shifter for any TJ with crappy worn out T-case shifter linkage.


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