[lumpster]

is that a trick question?? LOL



For most, corner guards and and rocker guards are not needed. How many people that have those addons have never used them? i would say most of the people that buy them are doing so to look cool, and if its your DD why not put the lighter parts on. If nothing else it will save you gas.


I jsut thought of something, why not make aluminum corner guards and rocker guards out of aluminum tape. Cheaper, lighter and used just as much as most peoples 3/16 or 1/4 inch thick stuff.

[rsbmg]

I hear what your saying, I was simply implying that money would be better spent in other areas prior to arriving at the NEED for lighter body armor. I agree for many it completes a "look". Perhaps at this moment I fall in that category but its also in anticipation of getting my rig to the point where I will need them and in fact use them.

[mrblaine]

Originally Posted by lumpster

is that a trick question?? LOL



For most, corner guards and and rocker guards are not needed. How many people that have those addons have never used them?

You really believe that to be the case? If so, I'm so far out of the loop as to not even be on the same planet.

I blew off our stock side steps within an hour of owning our rig and that was on some very mild trails. My first upgrade was a set of rock rails.

[LuckRider]

Originally Posted by undercoverfab

Our 3/16" steel skid weight in at 62 lbs. Our 1/4" steel skid weights in at 77 lbs. Our 1/4" aluminum skid weights in at 27lbs.

The alloy of aluminum (6061-t6) we are using has a higher yield strength than A36 steel plate (probably what most people would call "carbon steel") but has a lower ultimate tensile strength. This could be described in simpler terms by saying that assuming an equal thickness steel and aluminum skid plate, the steel skid would start to bend before the aluminum skid; but the aluminum skid would also "fail" before the steel skid.

There are of course other factors to consider when choosing a material, but these are two of the more important properties to look at.

I don't post in threads where my products are mentioned because I don't yet have a vendor star.

Thanks,

Well... I was pretty close with the weight of the steel skid from UCF. I was off by 8lbs which I would account for by saying that the part that crossmember is the same weight in both, and there is no weigh savings there. I like that UCF is at least watching this thread to be able to answer questions from forum members (I don't think it avoids the no soliciting rule either since we are asking for the info).

Now for Blaine... I love the way you describe the reasons for the weight savings in your last 2 posts. They make perfect sense, and go farther than just saying we do this. YOu go to explain why it isn't the right way to go for everyone. With that said, I still think that the weight savings have other uses than in the hardcore rocks (some of your rocks are the size of your rigs, when I first saw that, I never thought it was possible). Since many of our Jeeps spend a lot of time on the road, the extra weight savings helps with vehicle wear and mileage. As for your question, I would rather have a TJ with 31"s on a 2.5" lift rather than a TJ with extra heavy armor lifted 3.25".

I should also address the cost of AL. The difference isn't that much more $$, and the benefits are worth it. Rocker guards aren't useless, my steps have a big dent from dropping them on a rock, and I am considered by other forum members to not actually use my Jeep.

[Kiwi]

Originally Posted by mrblaine

You really believe that to be the case? If so, I'm so far out of the loop as to not even be on the same planet.

I blew off our stock side steps within an hour of owning our rig and that was on some very mild trails. My first upgrade was a set of rock rails.

Yes I believe that. I see all sorts of Jeeps running around here with all that stuff on with nary a scrape or scratch on them.

Maybe you should have let Kat drive your new rig

[MudDuck99]

anyone got a weight on the ROKMEN skid? Wasn't posted on page 1

[Deacon]

Originally Posted by lumpster

For most, corner guards and and rocker guards are not needed. How many people that have those addons have never used them?

I tried to talk Blaine into making a mini boatside version of his rockers because I tried to get away without them too long and have already had the process of hammering in the rocker panel lip begun for me by a rock at Long's Ranch.

[REDLYNER]

Originally Posted by lumpster

For most, corner guards and and rocker guards are not needed. How many people that have those addons have never used them? i would say most of the people that buy them are doing so to look cool, and if its your DD why not put the lighter parts on. If nothing else it will save you gas.


I jsut thought of something, why not make aluminum corner guards and rocker guards out of aluminum tape. Cheaper, lighter and used just as much as most peoples 3/16 or 1/4 inch thick stuff.

I'm not quite sure how to respond....

I can not remember the last trip I went on where I didn't hit my rocker guards. Seriously, I can't remember not hitting them. If you aren't dragging your rockers over an obstacle, or squeezing your rockers between a v-notch, you are missing out on a whole world of awesome in the sport of off-roading.

[Imped]

Originally Posted by REDLYNER

I'm not quite sure how to respond....

I can not remember the last trip I went on where I didn't hit my rocker guards. Seriously, I can't remember not hitting them. If you aren't dragging your rockers over an obstacle, or squeezing your rockers between a v-notch, you are missing out on a whole world of awesome in the sport of off-roading.

Agreed. Rocker guards should be #3 behind oil pan and steering box skids, which are cheap and functional. All three will save your *** every time you wheel.

[mrblaine]

Originally Posted by Firekite

I tried to talk Blaine into making a mini boatside version of his rockers because I tried to get away without them too long and have already had the process of hammering in the rocker panel lip begun for me by a rock at Long's Ranch.

There will be a boat side version at some point, but there's a bunch of other stuff that has to be finished up first.

Heading down in a few minutes to final up the rear bumpers and no, there are no teaser pics.

[DaleII]

Originally Posted by mrblaine

There will be a boat side version at some point, but there's a bunch of other stuff that has to be finished up first.

Heading down in a few minutes to final up the rear bumpers and no, there are no teaser pics.

Awwhh man.. I like looking at the purrty stuff..

Anyway we should get back on topic. Blaine, how is the TT coming along? Some good news I hope? Also shouldn't the LJ stuff be coming along well?

[lumpster]

I wasn’t really referring to JF people for the most part. How many JK's have you seen with 20's or bigger rims and had serious off-road accessories like winch, bumpers, rockers, ect..


I’ve seen several tj's setup the same way; I would say half of the stuff you sell will never touch a rock, maybe a minivan or Honda, but not rocks.



To anyone that thought I was saying you don’t use your stuff, I was not, unless you don’t.

[lumpster]

Originally Posted by DaleII

Blaine, how is the TT coming along? Some good news I hope? Also shouldn't the LJ stuff be coming along well?

oh yes, lets hear it.

[mrblaine]

Originally Posted by lumpster

oh yes, lets hear it.

The Unlimited stuff is almost done. Corners, rock rails and tub backers are done, tub rails are almost done.

[Goobersbro]

Originally Posted by lumpster

I wasn’t really referring to JF people for the most part. How many JK's have you seen with 20's or bigger rims and had serious off-road accessories like winch, bumpers, rockers, ect..


I’ve seen several tj's setup the same way; I would say half of the stuff you sell will never touch a rock, maybe a minivan or Honda, but not rocks.



To anyone that thought I was saying you don’t use your stuff, I was not, unless you don’t.

well for what its worth I have never seen anyone around here with tubes / true rock sliders/ or full corners that didn't wheel their rig....Most guys who just buy cool stuff by Smittybuilt side steps diamond plate small corner guards and bushwacker flairs