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Unread 11-08-2009, 09:56 AM   #1
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snow plowing with a jeep

it's that time of year again. my landscape comp has a handfull of plow contracts. we currently use large super duty pick up trucs and a skid steer to handle the job however last year we picked up two very tight parking lots and are haveing a hard time with our current set ups. customers are complaining and we are doing tooo much hand shoveling. i am thinking about putting the lightest semi-commercial duty plow on my 2005 wrangler to tackle these two small accounts and to support the other trucks in other tight areas (drive thru @ dunkin). anyone else plow with their wrangler. if so what plow do you use and are you seeing any problems with your jeep.

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Unread 11-08-2009, 10:43 AM   #2
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I know there are a few Canadians that have them on TJ's so looking at posts from them might help.

Plows are heavy, TJ's are small and light. Plows kill Jeeps. Any and all warranty is void with plow use.

That over with now.... the factory steering and suspension is not great setup for plow use on a TJ. It's pretty small stuff and having coils with 4 link is not going to be as rigid as say a leaf spring set up on a YJ or CJ long term with seasonal plow use.

For the wear and tear you would put on your TJ, I personally would rather put time and money into a YJ if I was going to use a plow seasonally. I know guys that plowed with YJ's and CJ's until they rusted apart, but I don't see very many TJ's with plows nowadays.
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Unread 11-08-2009, 11:05 AM   #3
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Check out this thread for some ideas the yellow rubi with the air bags seems to work well.



http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/he...owplow-888734/
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Unread 11-08-2009, 01:15 PM   #4
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I would look for a cheap YJ to do this with, the TJ was just not designed for plow. You may also want to look at a bobcat that's what they use here in tight places and would be way more useful than a TJ, for the rest of the year. The coils, steering, and front axles are just not a good set-up for a plow. You could plow with your TJ but be prepared to dump a bunch of money into so that you don't wreck, this would include, air bags, steering upgrade, and probably a stronger front axle.
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Unread 11-08-2009, 06:28 PM   #5
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pretty sure skid steer = bobcat
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Unread 11-08-2009, 06:33 PM   #6
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ATV's with a plow is good, my brother in law as one and it does the job
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Unread 11-08-2009, 07:02 PM   #7
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I made the mistake of putting a 7'-6" plow blade on a Dodge Ram 1500. It was only for plowing my own business lot. We get a LOT of snow where I work and live, so perhaps this doesn't apply to you, but after two winters with the Ram 1500, which was an '07 it was shot. Several front end components were changed because of the plow. A Jeep is not nearly as beefy as a Ram, though I don't think you would put a 7' blade on a Jeep.
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Unread 11-08-2009, 07:04 PM   #8
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it's that time of year again. my landscape comp has a handfull of plow contracts. we currently use large super duty pick up trucs and a skid steer to handle the job however last year we picked up two very tight parking lots and are haveing a hard time with our current set ups. customers are complaining and we are doing tooo much hand shoveling. i am thinking about putting the lightest semi-commercial duty plow on my 2005 wrangler to tackle these two small accounts and to support the other trucks in other tight areas (drive thru @ dunkin). anyone else plow with their wrangler. if so what plow do you use and are you seeing any problems with your jeep.
Customers are complaining because you are shoveling snow by hand? Sheesh. You're the one shoveling it, not them. Why should they care if you're breaking your back?

There was an XJ snow plow option years ago. Don't recall all details, but had heavier front springs, shocks, and cooling system. It also had some type mounts on front bumper for a plow blade. Clevis mounts maybe?

I think an XJ or LJ could be a good small plow. An LJ Rubi would be an ideal small plow (HD front and rear axle). The XJ and LJ have a longer wheel base than a TJ, making them the better candidates. The LJ Rubi is heavier than XJ (by about 1000 lbs) making it a bigger bully to push snow, plus the heavier duty axles, yet it's overall length and width is same as an XJ.

I do not think a TJ would be suitable for a front mounted plow (since short wheel base, already front heavy and butt-light).

However, any model of Jeep can pull a plow. Though the heavier the Jeep, the easier/better it can pull (hence the LJ Rubi is good because heavy, yet small dimensions). i.e. - tow a rear mounted plow that you hook to clevis mounts on rear bumper. It did that before and it worked great for clearing a parking lot. Also, no need to modify your Jeep, except that you need clevis mounts on rear bumper. I just used the rear receiver (since I don't have clevis mounts), but using a clevis mount on each side would work better.

Pull a (wood) 4x4 with weights mounted on it, or use your imagination when making a towable plow. If you angle it (longer chain or tow strap on one side than the other), you can direct the snow to the long side.

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You might also just get a small 4 wheel drive tractor (like a John Deere for example) and plow with that. It could also scoop and dump the snow.
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You might also just get a small 4 wheel drive tractor (like a John Deere for example) and plow with that. It could also scoop and dump the snow.


That is a far better solution, although it means towing the thing, unless your contracts are reasonable close to your shop.
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Unread 11-08-2009, 07:20 PM   #11
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The small tractor is a better, but more expensive solution.

A cheap (and fun) solution would be to make a towable plow for the TJ and two it behind it. That won't hurt the TJ a bit, wouldn't cost much money to setup.
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I agree with the bobcat option. Snow is very light compared to the materials that those machines are designed to carry. You could get a used one possibly for a reasonable price and it would be much more versatile then a TJ with a plow.
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That is a far better solution, although it means towing the thing, unless your contracts are reasonable close to your shop.
already thought about that. we have some smaller tractors. but do not have cab enclosure and for sure operators would complain about cold fingers. also i am told that towing a trailer in a snow storm is illeagal and since we would have to move the machine from site to site during the storm i would be sticking my neck out. finnaly although the sites are small they might be too big for tractors since they can only push and scoop snow not plow. whew too much to think about and snow is almost here! i have seen some older jeeps with older plows on them driving around town. think i going to track one of those guys down and interigate them on their adventures. please keep giving ideas and i let you know what i do...
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already thought about that. we have some smaller tractors. but do not have cab enclosure and for sure operators would complain about cold fingers. also i am told that towing a trailer in a snow storm is illeagal and since we would have to move the machine from site to site during the storm i would be sticking my neck out. finnaly although the sites are small they might be too big for tractors since they can only push and scoop snow not plow. whew too much to think about and snow is almost here! i have seen some older jeeps with older plows on them driving around town. think i going to track one of those guys down and interigate them on their adventures. please keep giving ideas and i let you know what i do...
Colder fingers in an open cab vs shoveling with cold fingers? I'd take the open cab. Wear a snow mobile suit and artic gloves and boots. Problem solved with the tractor you already own, if you can drive it from site to site. I suppose the tractors don't drive on highway fast enough?

Perhaps you can buy one of those older Jeeps that's already setup?
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