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Location: Victoria, British Columbia
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Should I upgrade my dana 44?
Hi there. I have decided that when I return home from course, I'm in the Canadian Navy, I will be finally making some changes to the currently stock TJ. My plan is to put a OME 2.5" lift with a JKS 1.25" body lift and 1" mml on. I then intend to run 33s with this set up. Now I have given alot of thought to what else I want done and I have decided I want an ARB locker which I hope to have installed at the same time as I have the jeep re geared to 4.56.
Now my question is this: Should I spend the extra on upgrading my Dana 44 to a super 44 with 33 splines? I know once I pull the trigger on the locker buy I won't be changing my mind as I'm not made of money. Most of my wheeling is mountain trails and I doubt I will ever upgrade beyond 35s. That being said I do tend to be a "When in doubt, gas it out" kinda wheeler. I like to think that's due to the fact I'm trying to follow real rigs in my little stocker, but maybe I'm just too aggressive heh. Any input from the community would be appreciated.
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I hadn't planned on locking the 30. My concern is breaking the 44 when locked.
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You won't be breaking the D44 with 33"s. and locked.You'll be just fine.
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Are you putting the ARB in the rear of the front? If your doing the rear then its a very small cost to go to a super 44 ( a few hundred bucks for the shafts) the major cost in going super anything in the rear is the carrier.
I dont think you'll ever have a problem with a stock 44 on 33's but if you're making the change i would spend the extra and go super. You never know when you'll go 35's and a super 44 will have no problems with them.. Dave
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x2!! That D44 will be fine, I beat the livin hell out of mine and Its locked in the rear, on 33's and I dont think twice about it. Its currently sittin broke bc I stripped the spyder gears in the front of my D30. Upgrading my D30 and should be on 35's by the next month.
Why upgrade your rear axle? when its not going to break easily, I'd be worried about the front there buddy |
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Thanks for the replies, I really don't want to throw too much into the 30 cause I hope to replace it next summer. I'll probably just stick with 30 splines in the 44 then.
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I've had people recommend that you can get 30 spline CroMoly shafts as an upgrade. That way you can keep your stock shafts as trail spares. At least that's what I'm hoping to do...
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For 33" tires and a locker, you can stay with 30 spline axleshafts. Stronger Alloy axleshafts like from Superior Axle are VERY good but would actually be overkill for 33" tires for most Jeepers. I have alloy 30 spline axleshafts in my D44 with a Detroit Locker and it gets hammered at times while rock crawling but even with my 35" tires, my 30 spline shafts have held up fine.
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If your staying with 33" tires then an ARB with 30 spline axles will be fine, but if you think you might go to 35" or taller tires later on it wouldn't hurt you to get the 35 spline locker and 35 spline shafts, I'm not sure what the price difference is but it's worth looking into.
Then again the cost of someone re-gearing your axle, putting an ARB locker in it, and new axle shafts is going to start adding up. Your just about to the point of buying an axle done and selling your 44. It depends on what you want to do with the jeep, how big your going to build it in the future, and how hard your going to beat on it. Your not going to want to build an axle now then build another one 2 years from now.
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I think I will get the 30 spline locker and then at a later time I'll buy the stronger 30 spline axles from superior axle, it may be overkill for 33s but I'd like to do as much as I can to prevent breakage on the trail.
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Oh and the fact Canada has a Navy surprises lots of people, even people that live within 50km of the fleets.
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I was sorta in the same boat as you are about 2 years ago. I stuck with the 30 spline axles and my thinking was this. If for some freak reason I did break an axle, how easy is it to pick up another 35 spline axle at the store? I know I can pick up a 30 spline practically anywhere, if fact I got a spare set at a local junkyard for next to nothing. I don't forsee me ever breaking these axles because of how I wheel (until I get my 2.5 swapped out for a V8) and I don't see that happening any time soon. I say upgrade to alloy, keep the stock set as spares and call it a day.
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I'm a big meanie head
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lol j/k I'm in the US Navy, so I always like meeting/messing with other sailors.
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