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Unread 06-28-2009, 10:00 AM   #136
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I can keep the 'corners' to 0.001" radius if using a 15* 'V' bit with 0.002" flat tip but I've been using 0.020" or 0.030" tip until I get a high speed spindle.

V-Carve will bring the tip of the cutting tool up the corner to 'square' it giving the appearance of a chiseled corner.

A prototype trail marker in bronze using a 0.030" tip 30* 'v' bit. The '1997' is 0.750" tall.

In other words, it's basically like draft on a mold and just brought up to a corner where it intersects the top face?

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Unread 06-28-2009, 10:09 AM   #137
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In other words, it's basically like draft on a mold and just brought up to a corner where it intersects the top face?
Yes, essentially.

I initially machined 4 of these from acetal with a 7.5* draft and gave them to my pattern maker to set up the rest of the board for casting. They are cast with a blank boss when the date is and my intent was to machine only the dates as they are all different. Due to a change in the font after I had already cast them I decided it was easier to just machine the entire face. Not a big deal for this trail as I'm only making 20 of them to supplement 200 that had already been made (poorly at an exorbitant price) by another company.

The next trail is all mine!!!!!

Vectric, the maker of v-carve offers a free trial version if you feel so inclined to tinker with it.
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Unread 06-28-2009, 10:27 AM   #138
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Yes, essentially.

I initially machined 4 of these from acetal with a 7.5* draft and gave them to my pattern maker to set up the rest of the board for casting.
The use of the asterisk for the degree symbol bugs me. Do this- hold down the alt key and key in 0176 and it will put this wherever your cursor is.

I forgot to tell you in the other reply that those markers look very nice.


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They are cast with a blank boss when the date is and my intent was to machine only the dates as they are all different. Due to a change in the font after I had already cast them I decided it was easier to just machine the entire face. Not a big deal for this trail as I'm only making 20 of them to supplement 200 that had already been made (poorly at an exorbitant price) by another company.

The next trail is all mine!!!!!

Vectric, the maker of v-carve offers a free trial version if you feel so inclined to tinker with it.
No, my tinkering with CAD programs is limited to the learner's edition of Turbo Cad because it's fairly intuitive. Anything other than that and I get lost and frustrated quickly. I'm not a CAD guy. I can visualize stuff and communicate it very well to folks that are good with CAD.

That's how I did the tail light housing. I had a mental image and relayed that to the machinist with a few hand sketches in a single meeting with him. He whipped out a prototype and I met once more to iron out a few small issues. One was raising the height of the inner mount surface .050 to raise the light slightly above flush for a better look.
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Unread 06-28-2009, 10:59 AM   #139
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The use of the asterisk for the degree symbol bugs me. Do this- hold down the alt key and key in 0176 and it will put this wherever your cursor is.

I forgot to tell you in the other reply that those markers look very nice.




No, my tinkering with CAD programs is limited to the learner's edition of Turbo Cad because it's fairly intuitive. Anything other than that and I get lost and frustrated quickly. I'm not a CAD guy. I can visualize stuff and communicate it very well to folks that are good with CAD.

That's how I did the tail light housing. I had a mental image and relayed that to the machinist with a few hand sketches in a single meeting with him. He whipped out a prototype and I met once more to iron out a few small issues. One was raising the height of the inner mount surface .050 to raise the light slightly above flush for a better look.
I couldn't add the in that manner so I have to dig it out of character map.

Thanks for the compliments on the markers. I must say, my version is much more crisp and legible than the originals. The next trail "The Million Year Trail" will have the font recessed and then filled with a contrasting epoxy. This makes the markers more visible as they are set into the trail surface (which is paved for handicap accessibility), wear better as there is far more bronze at the surface and there will be no voids to fill with debris... a problem with Trail of Time design.

The V-carve program is very intuitive and the SAVVY logo was a breeze. I took a digital photo, imported it as a bitmap and let the software create vectors around the colors in the photo. After some minor tweaking I produced the tool paths in V-carve. See, I'm really not that clever...
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Unread 06-28-2009, 11:06 AM   #140
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maybe you should take the trail rated logo that comes on all of our heeps and make belt buckles with the same design.
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Unread 06-28-2009, 12:11 PM   #141
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maybe you should take the trail rated logo that comes on all of our heeps and make belt buckles with the same design.
I'm pretty sure that I shouldn't.
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Unread 06-28-2009, 12:53 PM   #142
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I'm pretty sure that I shouldn't.


I can't even imagine the looks from the wimmenz you'd get with that part of your anatomy wearing a trail rated badge. It might be a great conversation starter, but I'm fairly certain you won't like the direction the conversation goes.
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Unread 06-28-2009, 01:20 PM   #143
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You're right! I was only repeating what I'm told. Come to find a self etching primer is good chemical treatment and when we tried Alodine we still had to paint. It was a lot easier to recommend a good primer.

Sorry for the confusion! I'm guilty of everything! We are producing and testing as faster as we can and somethings just don't work out. I try and let everyone know ASAP.

Thanks for setting me straight.


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Unread 06-28-2009, 03:06 PM   #144
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ozo101 is also making stickers for us! He'll get us rocking quickly in vinyl. The others i'm having done are press type and you can make 1000s inexpensively. The front end is more and the setup takes longer.

Thanks ozo101 (Eddy) for stepping up! I got you covered!

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So you're doing the same as a sinker wire EDM with a laser? And what's that worth in burn time?
yes and no, we engrave all our parts with the laser, but then yes we do burn parts like a sinker EDM, because we cant/dont bother to make the graphite that defined, its easier to just laser in in.

Its not the fastest process if your wanting depth, but if your just throwing a part number or a quick logo, .0005-.002 deep, its pretty quick.

Most of time on our mold surfaces we EDM them, that isnt a fast process either, depending on how big the graphite is. The biggest ive seen is about 9 inches in diameter and about 1.5 inches deep.

Ill have to see if our laser has the capacity to burn your logo on the bumper i get from you, wink, wink.
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Unread 06-29-2009, 04:33 AM   #146
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Unread 06-29-2009, 07:00 AM   #147
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A black version would sure be nice (hint, hint)!
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Unread 06-29-2009, 07:20 AM   #148
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I suggest delivering them in the raw and let the customers make them any color they want by any process they choose. It's the only way everyone will have the color/finish they want.

Short of that, just sell 5gl pails of bauxite and let them figure it out from there...
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Unread 06-29-2009, 07:50 AM   #149
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I suggest delivering them in the raw...
You really want Blaine or Gerald riding up to your house on a yellow scooter in the raw??
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You really want Blaine or Gerald riding up to your house on a yellow scooter in the raw??

So, THAT'S what bile tastes like... I might need my 1911 to get that image out of my brain.
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