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post #1 of 46 Old 07-30-2017, 12:02 PM Thread Starter
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Savvy Mid-Arm Prototype to Production...

Years ago I asked Blaine for some advice on repairing the front suspension on my LJ. During that conversation he mentioned a mid-arm kit he designed and pieced together for a customer in Riverside. He also happened to mention that it was used on the original Savvy/Currie LJ that won the first KOH EMC race (and races to follow). Blaine didn't recommend this mod for me, but instead suggested I contact the owner in Riverside and go for a ride to see if it was for me. That ride never happened, but based on its success and talking with the guy in Riverside, I knew it was for me!

I mentioned it to Gerald at Savvy a year later and he said bring it in. Somewhere in there Gerald and Blaine decided this one-off custom mid-arm kit of wonder, should become a production run...but didn't tell me until later. They had my Jeep for a while, trying this and that until they had something they were both happy with. A few months later I had my Jeep back with the very first Savvy Mid-Arm, installed by Blaine and Matt.

The Savvy Mid-Arm uses the stock shock locations and it worked well. I had a set of custom Radflo shocks in there and it worked great. But I wanted a little more.

It went back to Blaine to outboard the shocks, front and rear, with Fox 2.0 remotes; Currie Anti-Rock front and rear; Blaine's big brakes for 15" wheels, 5.13 gears, and a set of 35's on 15's. Does this thing flex!

Blaine and crew did a great job making everything fit! Using Blaine's words, "Its not easy when different parts want to occupy the same space at the same time." The exhaust was even tucked neatly out of the way! A little sheet metal trimming was required for the rear anti-rock to flex.

So hats off to Savvy, Gerald, and Blaine! Kudos to Johnny and Matt and anyone else who had their hands on her! Here are a few pictures. I'll answer any questions to the best of my ability. Here is the build list...

Suspension:
Savvy Mid-Arm Kit w/Currie 4" LJ Springs.
Outboard front and rear shocks.
Currie Anti-Rock front and rear.
Currie Steering.
Blaine's Black Magic 15" Brakes (awesome!)

Misc:
Savvy MUA, engine lift, body lift, gas skid, sliders, front bumper.
Method Double Standard 15" wheels w/3.5" offset.
BFG 35x12.5x15C All Terrain KO2
Magnaflow muffler
5.13:1 gears

Drivetrain:
Stock Rubicon 4.0L, 42RLE, 4:1 transfer case, Dana 44 axles and lockers.

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Looks good! My kit was one of the very first from the initial production run last Fall. I have been very happy with it!
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Is there any difference in the kit based on if it will be installed on a TJ vs an LJ?
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Is there any difference in the kit based on if it will be installed on a TJ vs an LJ?
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Besides the different springs that were mentioned? Can you share more info?
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Besides the different springs that were mentioned? Can you share more info?
I will try to help if I can. Do you have a specific question? Blaine is the brain behind this so I'll defer any technical questions to him for obvious reasons.

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Besides the different springs that were mentioned? Can you share more info?
I can. But, given the current modus operandi of how folks get information dispensed around here, I'm supposed to send a private message so there is no peer review and no possibility of contrary opinion.
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I can. But, given the current modus operandi of how folks get information dispensed around here, I'm supposed to send a private message so there is no peer review and no possibility of contrary opinion.
Screw those guys! :-)
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What length 2.0s did they put on front and rear?

I think my kit was number 3, but mine is a tiny bit different since I'm an 8.8 goober.

I am really happy with my arms so far, just got my 13" foxes on the front and some 4" springs to go with it. The rear still sucks, but the front feels great, just almost kept up with the race car on the twisty roads up here in oregon
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I can. But, given the current modus operandi of how folks get information dispensed around here, I'm supposed to send a private message so there is no peer review and no possibility of contrary opinion.
Lol! Well said. There's a reason that I usually pick your brain about suspension and steering design rather than others. I recall talking to you on the phone several years ago about mid arm suspension design and link placement before Savvy was installing them on customers rigs.

So, now that I'm back to building another TJ after having given up on the JK platform, if I were to mid arm a TJ would the wheelbase come into play very much? Particularily a TJ wheelbase stretch just to the very rear of the tub but not a comp cut. Maybe a back half kit, or something similar to the way you did CVD's rig, keeping the fuel tank under the tub.

Also I will eventually be upgrading to larger axles and bigger tires, so how well would this kit translate to a full size axle swap?
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Have you mucked your way through the (un)official thread yet? There is lots of discussion about axles and wheelbase.

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Particularily a TJ wheelbase stretch just to the very rear of the tub but not a comp cut. Maybe a back half kit, or something similar to the way you did CVD's rig, keeping the fuel tank under the tub.
I know people have to do things for reasons, but IMO with any stretch that keeps the tank under the tub the benefit gained for work done seems highly questionable.
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I know people have to do things for reasons, but IMO with any stretch that keeps the tank under the tub the benefit gained for work done seems highly questionable.
The white wonton rig in these pics had a Genright tank that was still under the tub, and the other white TJ, and Silver LJ were the last 2 TJ's I had before I started playing around with JK's.

Reason 1 for keeping the tank below the tub is for cargo space, 2: Lack of smell in cab, :3 ease of re-fueling, 4, and most important, it's the only option that passes Va. safety inspection.
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Have you mucked your way through the (un)official thread yet? There is lots of discussion about axles and wheelbase.
Yes, I asked a few questions in that thread, but they got lost in the shuffle.
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