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Unread 02-16-2010, 07:41 PM   #76
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30 bucks for a jam nut? WOW are they insane?
look at their market segment

I'll have less than $50 in each of my AL links when I'm done. BUT, I've been collecting "scrap" material by the pound for over a year. oh that's with the heim's too

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Unread 02-16-2010, 07:42 PM   #77
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Do you have any idea what Gerald would do to that 800 dollars worth of lower arms in one trip out in JV?
Judging by the videos I've seen of the owner of Off Road Evolution wheeling his Jeep on the Ultimate Adventure, I would say not too much that hasn't already been done. Like i said, I think that they would cost too much for you to be any where near competitive in the market with them.
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Unread 02-16-2010, 07:48 PM   #78
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Id have a hell of a time shelling out 35 bucks for cromo barrels for the JJ's, let alone what they are asking for arms and jam nuts.

I guess im just a broke jeeper trying to get by.
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Unread 02-16-2010, 07:49 PM   #79
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I take that back this has already been answered
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Unread 02-16-2010, 07:59 PM   #80
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Judging by the videos I've seen of the owner of Off Road Evolution wheeling his Jeep on the Ultimate Adventure, I would say not too much that hasn't already been done. Like i said, I think that they would cost too much for you to be any where near competitive in the market with them.
I think you misunderstood. I doubt that Gerald would break them, but aesthetically, they would be trashed. The radii at the lower corners are not nearly large enough to stop big wickers from being peeled up.
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Unread 02-16-2010, 08:27 PM   #81
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Only Savvy could post a pic of a Jeep with a chrome grill and then get six pages of comments without a single comment about it. If this were anybody else somewhere in the first page someone would drop a tried and true pearl of wisdom like - "Chrome won't get you home"

You guys freakin run this place! Next week everybody will be running chrome grills!
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Unread 02-16-2010, 08:35 PM   #82
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Only Savvy could post a pic of a Jeep with a chrome grill and then get six pages of comments without a single comment about it. If this were anybody else somewhere in the first page someone would drop a tried and true pearl of wisdom like - "Chrome won't get you home"

You guys freakin run this place! Next week everybody will be running chrome grills!
lol, I thought the same thing. I was going to comment, but I had more pressing issues.

Gerald, didn't you want to polish all of the savvy stuff?
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Only Savvy could post a pic of a Jeep with a chrome grill and then get six pages of comments without a single comment about it. If this were anybody else somewhere in the first page someone would drop a tried and true pearl of wisdom like - "Chrome won't get you home"

You guys freakin run this place! Next week everybody will be running chrome grills!
Guess I owe you a Beer! I have been so lazy that I never got around to yanking it off. I not sure what's under it.
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lol, I thought the same thing. I was going to comment, but I had more pressing issues.
Like speaking for Blaine? or trying to? JK.

But Gerald that LJ looks great..but it looks like the belly is lonely down there waiting anxiously
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I would have just said it wasn't chrome..it is polished aluminum.
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I think you misunderstood. I doubt that Gerald would break them, but aesthetically, they would be trashed. The radii at the lower corners are not nearly large enough to stop big wickers from being peeled up.
I don't pretend to know much about aluminum, but isn't that always a concern when you mix rocks and aluminum? i have no personal experience with your products, (Though i REALLY want the gas tank skid) but when you drag your gas tank skid across the rocks don't you get gouges? I guess I just assumed that was the nature of the beast. In my experiences it really doesn't matter what materials you use, if you play in the rocks your undercarriage won't be as pretty as when you started.

My whole point in posting that link was just to point out it can be done. Unfortunately, 99% of the TJ market would never be willing to pay the prices that you would need to charge to produce the arms. I would love to see some for the TJ, but I admittedly would be far too cheap to actually buy them.
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I don't pretend to know much about aluminum, but isn't that always a concern when you mix rocks and aluminum?
It's all about the length of the radius. The smaller it is or put another way, the sharper the corner is, the more susceptible it is to damage. Keep the radii large and you minimize the damage.

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i have no personal experience with your products, (Though i REALLY want the gas tank skid) but when you drag your gas tank skid across the rocks don't you get gouges?
Of course you get gouges, but what makes you think steel is any better?





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I guess I just assumed that was the nature of the beast. In my experiences it really doesn't matter what materials you use, if you play in the rocks your undercarriage won't be as pretty as when you started.
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My whole point in posting that link was just to point out it can be done. Unfortunately, 99% of the TJ market would never be willing to pay the prices that you would need to charge to produce the arms. I would love to see some for the TJ, but I admittedly would be far too cheap to actually buy them.
Can be done and will it work are two dramatically different concepts. Lots of stuff has been done. Not all of it works well enough to survive JV.
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Is that a bungee cord holding the rear bumper on????
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I don't know how you can design the rest of your skids from aluminum and not some control arms? Aren't you technically dragging your gas tank skid across the same rocks the control arms would see?

I still understand the strength issues, etc. and I'm not questioning you. Merely wondering where the logic is in that.

The LJ looks great. Could probably just scuff up the chrome and hit it with some krylon flat black if you're really lazy.
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I don't think steel is any better, and already stated that it doesn't matter what you use. I need to replenish my account so that I can splurge for your gas tank skid, from what I can tell it is top notch. I understand what you're saying about the radii now, thanks for the knowledge..
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