Savvy Front Bumper Install - Page 11 - JeepForum.com

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #151 of 271 Old 02-14-2010, 06:16 PM
grogie
M-F: Cell Block #4533
 
grogie's Avatar
2006 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Indy
Posts: 8,060
I like the black shirt! If there must be other colors, how about a white wife beater?



Red Jeep Club #345
2006 TJ Sport -
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

2004 KJ Limited
2013 Off-Road Trailer -
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


"Civilization is what old men manage to salvage
from the onslaught of young idealists. -- Don Colacho

grogie is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #152 of 271 Old 02-15-2010, 12:08 AM
DaleII
Registered User
2005 LJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Riverside/Apple Valley
Posts: 1,503
Quote:
Originally Posted by red rubi View Post
X2 My GF is sure proud of me
My mom gave me a whole speech after seeing that.. Oh well. I'll just have to choose the times I wear it wisely.

Otherwise. I need some tips on how to paint this aluminum, and Gerald needs to email me some install instructions.

2005 Silver LJ
DaleII is offline  
post #153 of 271 Old 02-15-2010, 12:10 AM
LuckRider
Web Wheeler
 
LuckRider's Avatar
2004 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: NY - 12550
Posts: 9,314
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaleII View Post
My mom gave me a whole speech after seeing that.. Oh well. I'll just have to choose the times I wear it wisely.

Otherwise. I need some tips on how to paint this aluminum, and Gerald needs to email me some install instructions.
No they don't. Use self etching primer, and then the paint of your choice. It is as simple as that.

Thanks to SuperWade2 For the 1 Year Upgrade!
Support Our Troops!

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
JFI Member #7:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
: Mostly Stock 2005 I6 Patriot Blue TJ:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
BESRK Rear Bumper, Hella 500s

Do the Jeep Wave :D 0|||||||0 Take 95% of what I say as a joke/sarcasm!-Thomas
LuckRider is offline  
post #154 of 271 Old 02-15-2010, 12:14 AM
rsbmg
Registered User
2013 JK Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Vista, Ca
Posts: 279
The instructions that are needed are where to buy self etching primer. Home Depot, Lowes, Walmart, Napa, Autozone, Sherwin Williams, All say never heard of it, hmmmm, uhhhh, ummm, I had no idea it was as rare as a 17/32 drill bit. Anybody in San Diego County no where I can find this magical primer?

84 CJ7 / 98 Cherokee / 06 LJ / 13 JKU Rubicon
rsbmg is offline  
post #155 of 271 Old 02-15-2010, 12:21 AM
LuckRider
Web Wheeler
 
LuckRider's Avatar
2004 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: NY - 12550
Posts: 9,314
Quote:
Originally Posted by rsbmg View Post
The instructions that are needed are where to buy self etching primer. Home Depot, Lowes, Walmart, Napa, Autozone, Sherwin Williams, All say never heard of it, hmmmm, uhhhh, ummm, I had no idea it was as rare as a 17/32 drill bit. Anybody in San Diego County no where I can find this magical primer?
It is very simple. Ask for the assocciate to bring you to the rattle can isle. Grab a can of bare metal primer. Show them that it says self etching primer on the back. Be done. That will get you the right stuff and teach them something new. My dad didn't know what the stuff was till I showed him.

Here is what you should look for:

Thanks to SuperWade2 For the 1 Year Upgrade!
Support Our Troops!

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
JFI Member #7:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
: Mostly Stock 2005 I6 Patriot Blue TJ:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
BESRK Rear Bumper, Hella 500s

Do the Jeep Wave :D 0|||||||0 Take 95% of what I say as a joke/sarcasm!-Thomas
LuckRider is offline  
post #156 of 271 Old 02-15-2010, 12:31 AM
rsbmg
Registered User
2013 JK Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Vista, Ca
Posts: 279
I can not believe nobody at any of these stores could offer the least bit of help. I even told them I wanted to paint bare aluminum and wanted to know what I should use for primer usually the response was "hmmm not sure about aluminum."

Now my next questions is why do people keep saying self etching primer instead of just primer. Is there primer that does not etch the metal? If so why is it neccesary to read the back of the can to find out? Shouldnt it be part of the label? I have never really had to anything but that should be evident by now

84 CJ7 / 98 Cherokee / 06 LJ / 13 JKU Rubicon
rsbmg is offline  
post #157 of 271 Old 02-15-2010, 12:39 AM
LuckRider
Web Wheeler
 
LuckRider's Avatar
2004 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: NY - 12550
Posts: 9,314
Quote:
Originally Posted by rsbmg View Post
I can not believe nobody at any of these stores could offer the least bit of help. I even told them I wanted to paint bare aluminum and wanted to know what I should use for primer usually the response was "hmmm not sure about aluminum."

Now my next questions is why do people keep saying self etching primer instead of just primer. Is there primer that does not etch the metal? If so why is it neccesary to read the back of the can to find out? Shouldnt it be part of the label? I have never really had to anything but that should be evident by now
Like I said, get the can pictured above. You can't go wrong with that stuff. The people at the stores are trained to handle basic questions, and let's face it, they don't get many people asking about painting bare aluminum.

I think there is a difference actually. Anything for metal should be self etching, stuff like wood doesn't need it since it is porous, and quite capable of adhering on its own.

Thanks to SuperWade2 For the 1 Year Upgrade!
Support Our Troops!

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
JFI Member #7:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
: Mostly Stock 2005 I6 Patriot Blue TJ:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
BESRK Rear Bumper, Hella 500s

Do the Jeep Wave :D 0|||||||0 Take 95% of what I say as a joke/sarcasm!-Thomas
LuckRider is offline  
post #158 of 271 Old 02-15-2010, 12:42 AM
rsbmg
Registered User
2013 JK Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Vista, Ca
Posts: 279
Cool, thanks for the education. I have seen that very can at home depot and almost bought it but just wasn't sure. Thanks again!

84 CJ7 / 98 Cherokee / 06 LJ / 13 JKU Rubicon
rsbmg is offline  
post #159 of 271 Old 02-15-2010, 12:47 AM
LuckRider
Web Wheeler
 
LuckRider's Avatar
2004 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: NY - 12550
Posts: 9,314
Yeah, no problem. We thought about the heavy rust one, but when I was getting the paint, I was painting steel that had a phosphoric acid bath, and had ZERO rust. They make it is quarts to for a spray gun if you prefer to go about it that way.

Thanks to SuperWade2 For the 1 Year Upgrade!
Support Our Troops!

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
JFI Member #7:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
: Mostly Stock 2005 I6 Patriot Blue TJ:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
BESRK Rear Bumper, Hella 500s

Do the Jeep Wave :D 0|||||||0 Take 95% of what I say as a joke/sarcasm!-Thomas
LuckRider is offline  
post #160 of 271 Old 02-15-2010, 09:30 AM
SpeedJeep
Web Wheeler
 
SpeedJeep's Avatar
2000 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: St. Charles
Posts: 1,516
I wonder if there be a winch mount for those of us with a Warn 8274?
SpeedJeep is offline  
post #161 of 271 Old 02-15-2010, 10:19 AM
mrblaine
Wizard of Brakes
 
mrblaine's Avatar
1999 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Quail Valley
Posts: 30,386
Quote:
Originally Posted by rsbmg View Post
The instructions that are needed are where to buy self etching primer. Home Depot, Lowes, Walmart, Napa, Autozone, Sherwin Williams, All say never heard of it, hmmmm, uhhhh, ummm, I had no idea it was as rare as a 17/32 drill bit. Anybody in San Diego County no where I can find this magical primer?
SEM makes good stuff and are usually not mainstream as they are used in a lot of auto body shops.

Self etching primer contains an acid and a zinc and the acid etches the surface to give the zinc a way to bite into the top few microns of the metal's surface. It is also very porous so your finish coats will sink in and bond to it.

Typically the acid is phosphoric so you can use it on both aluminum and steel. The phosphoric converts the oxides and stops the oxidation process, but won't continue to stop it unless it is top coated fairly soon due to it's porosity.

I did a quick search on the net for SEM self etching primer and came up with many sources.

I am Savvy
blackmagicbrakes.com
Knowledge does not equal understanding.
mrblaine is online now  
post #162 of 271 Old 02-15-2010, 10:27 AM
rsbmg
Registered User
2013 JK Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Vista, Ca
Posts: 279
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrblaine View Post
I did a quick search on the net for SEM self etching primer and came up with many sources.
I tried that also sadly when a manufacturers site says here is a list of 1000 stores that carry our product, it only means the store may carry 1 of their products. So you go there and find neon pink rustoleum and thats it.

As it turns out I just needed some education (as do store employees) on what to use. I have seen the Rustoleum bare metal primer at several of the places that told me they didn't know what self etching primer was.

Also mrblain when you get a chance check your pm's I sent you a question about the sliders maybe you could help me with.

Thanks!

84 CJ7 / 98 Cherokee / 06 LJ / 13 JKU Rubicon
rsbmg is offline  
post #163 of 271 Old 02-15-2010, 10:37 AM
LuckRider
Web Wheeler
 
LuckRider's Avatar
2004 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: NY - 12550
Posts: 9,314
Quote:
Originally Posted by rsbmg View Post
I tried that also sadly when a manufacturers site says here is a list of 1000 stores that carry our product, it only means the store may carry 1 of their products. So you go there and find neon pink rustoleum and thats it.

As it turns out I just needed some education (as do store employees) on what to use. I have seen the Rustoleum bare metal primer at several of the places that told me they didn't know what self etching primer was.

Also mrblain when you get a chance check your pm's I sent you a question about the sliders maybe you could help me with.

Thanks!
You might get more help from Blaine by making a thread. He prefers to answer specific questions in a way that others can benefit.

Thanks to SuperWade2 For the 1 Year Upgrade!
Support Our Troops!

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
JFI Member #7:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
: Mostly Stock 2005 I6 Patriot Blue TJ:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
BESRK Rear Bumper, Hella 500s

Do the Jeep Wave :D 0|||||||0 Take 95% of what I say as a joke/sarcasm!-Thomas
LuckRider is offline  
post #164 of 271 Old 02-15-2010, 11:17 AM
DaleII
Registered User
2005 LJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Riverside/Apple Valley
Posts: 1,503
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luckrider View Post
No they don't. Use self etching primer, and then the paint of your choice. It is as simple as that.
Thanks. That's what I thought. I have seen it enough time, was just making sure for the hundredth time.

2005 Silver LJ
DaleII is offline  
post #165 of 271 Old 02-15-2010, 12:50 PM
Savvy
Vendor
 
Savvy's Avatar
2014 JK Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Tustin, CA - Orange County
Posts: 7,081
Quote:
Originally Posted by baboyd View Post
I wonder if there be a winch mount for those of us with a Warn 8274?
TMR makes a steel 8274 winch mount that I beleive will work.

Warn 8274 Jeep TJ Winch Plate - Kit warn 8274 jeep tj winch plate [TMR-DIY Bumper Comp-8274TJ-Kit] - $159.95 : TMR Customs, Custom Fabrication Components for Offroad Vehicles

SAVVY OFF ROAD - Winner of the King of the Hammers Everyman Challenge FIVE years in a row!

Email me for the fastest response:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Like us on Facebook
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


The ONLY place to get Savvy/Currie Lifts and parts! The best price and support!

Now with Lifetime Guarantee
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


2003 TJ Project Unrolled

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Savvy is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the JeepForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid e-mail address for yourself.



Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Jeep Forums Replies Last Post
Savvy Bumper ksm279 TJ Wrangler Technical Forum 4 02-12-2010 11:15 AM
Fr. Bumper Poll - Rokmen, Genright, Savvy, Cassidy Customs LGriffith TJ Wrangler Technical Forum 53 02-11-2010 07:44 AM
Savvy Off Road Front Bumper Give Away! Savvy YJ Wrangler Technical Forum 149 12-23-2009 10:45 PM
Front end sag after winch/bumper install sailr4 Wrangler General Discussion 2 02-18-2009 09:55 AM
looking to install a new front bumper, What do you guys think about this bumper? M.Creek TJ Wrangler Technical Forum 6 12-11-2003 09:25 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome