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Unread 02-14-2010, 05:16 PM   #151
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I like the black shirt! If there must be other colors, how about a white wife beater?

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Unread 02-14-2010, 11:08 PM   #152
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X2 My GF is sure proud of me
My mom gave me a whole speech after seeing that.. Oh well. I'll just have to choose the times I wear it wisely.

Otherwise. I need some tips on how to paint this aluminum, and Gerald needs to email me some install instructions.
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Unread 02-14-2010, 11:10 PM   #153
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My mom gave me a whole speech after seeing that.. Oh well. I'll just have to choose the times I wear it wisely.

Otherwise. I need some tips on how to paint this aluminum, and Gerald needs to email me some install instructions.
No they don't. Use self etching primer, and then the paint of your choice. It is as simple as that.
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Unread 02-14-2010, 11:14 PM   #154
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The instructions that are needed are where to buy self etching primer. Home Depot, Lowes, Walmart, Napa, Autozone, Sherwin Williams, All say never heard of it, hmmmm, uhhhh, ummm, I had no idea it was as rare as a 17/32 drill bit. Anybody in San Diego County no where I can find this magical primer?
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Unread 02-14-2010, 11:21 PM   #155
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The instructions that are needed are where to buy self etching primer. Home Depot, Lowes, Walmart, Napa, Autozone, Sherwin Williams, All say never heard of it, hmmmm, uhhhh, ummm, I had no idea it was as rare as a 17/32 drill bit. Anybody in San Diego County no where I can find this magical primer?
It is very simple. Ask for the assocciate to bring you to the rattle can isle. Grab a can of bare metal primer. Show them that it says self etching primer on the back. Be done. That will get you the right stuff and teach them something new. My dad didn't know what the stuff was till I showed him.

Here is what you should look for:
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I can not believe nobody at any of these stores could offer the least bit of help. I even told them I wanted to paint bare aluminum and wanted to know what I should use for primer usually the response was "hmmm not sure about aluminum."

Now my next questions is why do people keep saying self etching primer instead of just primer. Is there primer that does not etch the metal? If so why is it neccesary to read the back of the can to find out? Shouldnt it be part of the label? I have never really had to anything but that should be evident by now
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I can not believe nobody at any of these stores could offer the least bit of help. I even told them I wanted to paint bare aluminum and wanted to know what I should use for primer usually the response was "hmmm not sure about aluminum."

Now my next questions is why do people keep saying self etching primer instead of just primer. Is there primer that does not etch the metal? If so why is it neccesary to read the back of the can to find out? Shouldnt it be part of the label? I have never really had to anything but that should be evident by now
Like I said, get the can pictured above. You can't go wrong with that stuff. The people at the stores are trained to handle basic questions, and let's face it, they don't get many people asking about painting bare aluminum.

I think there is a difference actually. Anything for metal should be self etching, stuff like wood doesn't need it since it is porous, and quite capable of adhering on its own.
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Cool, thanks for the education. I have seen that very can at home depot and almost bought it but just wasn't sure. Thanks again!
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Yeah, no problem. We thought about the heavy rust one, but when I was getting the paint, I was painting steel that had a phosphoric acid bath, and had ZERO rust. They make it is quarts to for a spray gun if you prefer to go about it that way.
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I wonder if there be a winch mount for those of us with a Warn 8274?
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The instructions that are needed are where to buy self etching primer. Home Depot, Lowes, Walmart, Napa, Autozone, Sherwin Williams, All say never heard of it, hmmmm, uhhhh, ummm, I had no idea it was as rare as a 17/32 drill bit. Anybody in San Diego County no where I can find this magical primer?
SEM makes good stuff and are usually not mainstream as they are used in a lot of auto body shops.

Self etching primer contains an acid and a zinc and the acid etches the surface to give the zinc a way to bite into the top few microns of the metal's surface. It is also very porous so your finish coats will sink in and bond to it.

Typically the acid is phosphoric so you can use it on both aluminum and steel. The phosphoric converts the oxides and stops the oxidation process, but won't continue to stop it unless it is top coated fairly soon due to it's porosity.

I did a quick search on the net for SEM self etching primer and came up with many sources.
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I did a quick search on the net for SEM self etching primer and came up with many sources.
I tried that also sadly when a manufacturers site says here is a list of 1000 stores that carry our product, it only means the store may carry 1 of their products. So you go there and find neon pink rustoleum and thats it.

As it turns out I just needed some education (as do store employees) on what to use. I have seen the Rustoleum bare metal primer at several of the places that told me they didn't know what self etching primer was.

Also mrblain when you get a chance check your pm's I sent you a question about the sliders maybe you could help me with.

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I tried that also sadly when a manufacturers site says here is a list of 1000 stores that carry our product, it only means the store may carry 1 of their products. So you go there and find neon pink rustoleum and thats it.

As it turns out I just needed some education (as do store employees) on what to use. I have seen the Rustoleum bare metal primer at several of the places that told me they didn't know what self etching primer was.

Also mrblain when you get a chance check your pm's I sent you a question about the sliders maybe you could help me with.

Thanks!
You might get more help from Blaine by making a thread. He prefers to answer specific questions in a way that others can benefit.
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Unread 02-15-2010, 10:17 AM   #164
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No they don't. Use self etching primer, and then the paint of your choice. It is as simple as that.
Thanks. That's what I thought. I have seen it enough time, was just making sure for the hundredth time.
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Unread 02-15-2010, 11:50 AM   #165
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I wonder if there be a winch mount for those of us with a Warn 8274?
TMR makes a steel 8274 winch mount that I beleive will work.

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