My F&R Savvy 3" springs should be here tomorrow. Will be replacing the Clayton 4" springs. Just as Gerald said on the phone, they actually give more lift. If using 12"F/8"R spring length at ride height as a base line, then I net 5"F/5.5"R. That along with the 1" BL is just too much lift. I'm happy with my 33s and may get another set instead of going to 35s, but either way it could fit both.
Just wondering what kind of clearance issues I am going to have with lower ride height. Front, because of the Clayton drop track bar bracket and rear because of the Clayton outboard shock relocators. May have to get shorter shocks but the Bilstein 5100's are new. When I called Clayton up (as the Drop track bar mount was being welded on) to ask a question about the bracket, I also asked if they run into problems with 3" lift. They said it should be used with 4"+ lifts. Understable, their kit is made to work together.
I also converted the Clayton arms (JJ/Clevite) to dual JJ. The shortest they could be adjusted to was 16-1/8". They are now cut to shorten up to 15-1/4" and as long as each JJ can be safety extended (lots and lots of threaded length in there).
I wasn't expecting a huge difference, but the ride was noticeably improved. Much less jaring. I don't know if it's from the JJ, outboard shocks or both. The Bilstein 5100s on it now are the "long arm" version, apparently valved stiffer. As it is now, the ride is finally getting to be where I'm happy with - in fact, considering that it is 5" suspension lift on factory length short arms - the ride is darn good.
I'm looking forward to the Savvy 3" springs though. Lower height - 33s won't look as dorky. The progressive rate is nice. I'm also glad that it'll be reducing control arm angle as well as operating angle of the rear driveshaft CV at ride height. Also allow me to relax the pinion rotation front and rear a good bit. With these springs and the UCF 1" deep transfer case skid, things are quite high.
I'm currently installing the new Savvy rear track bar, just came in to check something. So excited! I was very happy with the stock suspension on 31s, but then screwed it all up with a bunch of junk. Finally after 1.5yrs I'm (properly) correcting the mess. It's costing alot of money, but the knowledge gained has been incredible. What it really came down to, was the Jeep being miserable to drive. I want to enjoy the thing so it got to a point where I said screw it - time to make it right. Now I've got a frakenlift.
Took this picture 2 nights ago, it's dark but shows the overall lift. I'm looking forward to a lower ride height. Traded 5 Jeep whees/tires for the welding required on the Claton brackets and arms. The Jeep is loaded with stuff inside too - lots of tools, tow bar I need to install and other stuff along with the tongue weight of the trailer (not a whole lot empty), I'd say it's got about 200lbs in the back over normal.
*Edit* I haven't changed my avatar pic, but that was on the RC 2.5" progressive springs with 3/4" spacer in front. Sure was glad when I got rid of those steel wheels too.