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post #46 of 57 Old 07-22-2010, 10:26 AM Thread Starter
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Did you completely miss post #11?



no, you're wrong. the JKS bar (#126) doesn't clear the stock cover either with N66 shocks...needs 2" of bumpstop IIRC.
How about if I add a Riddler Diff Covers? I really don't know anything about it other than it's stronger that stock.


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post #47 of 57 Old 07-22-2010, 10:55 AM
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How about if I add a Riddler Diff Covers? I really don't know anything about it other than it's stronger that stock.
the stock cover is the lowest profile available.

the riddler cover requires ~3.5" bumpstop extension with the #126 track bar. in other words, it hits on the street with normal pot holes, speed bumps and regular road features.

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the stock cover is the lowest profile available.

the riddler cover requires ~3.5" bumpstop extension with the #126 track bar. in other words, it hits on the street with normal pot holes, speed bumps and regular road features.

Hmm. Does the curried TB give more clearance? I assume yes but still not ideal.

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Hmm. Does the curried TB give more clearance? I assume yes but still not ideal.
somewhat...the Currie "TJS" TB still needs 2" bumpstops to clear the stock diff cover.

the best combo for a 2.5" lift with 13" collapsed length shocks is one of the following:

1. Crane or Barnett diff cover + stock track bar (drill a new hole & weld reinforcement to bracket)
2. Barnett diff cover, Currie TJS track bar + 2" bumpstop extensions

#2 limits uptravel some, but would allow the use of 15" collapsed length shocks, like OME N66L...which gets a bit more droop out of the front end.
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Or you could try just a diff cover shield for the bottom portion of the d30.
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Well I still haven't figure out what size suspension lif to go with, BUT I have made some progress.

Went to UCF and got the Ultra High Clearance TT with the Lo-Pro rubber transmission mount along with a JKS 1" BL/MML. The BL/MML went in just fine and was pretty simple, just make sure you have vice grips for the MML.

The UCF engine and T-case skid look sweet. Along with the Lo-Pro mount I'm excited to get it installed, but one down side to this setup is the UCF skids require a few modifications to the stock parts and to the UCF t-case skid to get the engine skid mounted. But I'm Stoked!!

Future ideas are still 2.5" OME or 4" Currie and will be going with 35" tires. Also, when $$$ going with Savvy Tank skid.

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somewhat...the Currie "TJS" TB still needs 2" bumpstops to clear the stock diff cover.

the best combo for a 2.5" lift with 13" collapsed length shocks is one of the following:

1. Crane or Barnett diff cover + stock track bar (drill a new hole & weld reinforcement to bracket)
2. Barnett diff cover, Currie TJS track bar + 2" bumpstop extensions

#2 limits uptravel some, but would allow the use of 15" collapsed length shocks, like OME N66L...which gets a bit more droop out of the front end.
Lets say i go with #2 (mostly) - Stock Cover, Currie CE-9120 TB, 2" Bumpstop extension in front, OME 2.5" HD but with N66L shocks.

Will I be forced to change Rear TB or Steering right away? I plan on doing them but not willing to shell out $$$ all at one time

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#2 limits uptravel some, but would allow the use of 15" collapsed length shocks, like OME N66L...which gets a bit more droop out of the front end.
Shocks of this length will require extended brake lines too.
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Lets say i go with #2 (mostly) - Stock Cover, Currie CE-9120 TB, 2" Bumpstop extension in front, OME 2.5" HD but with N66L shocks.

Will I be forced to change Rear TB or Steering right away? I plan on doing them but not willing to shell out $$$ all at one time
OME 2.5 HD springs might very likely unseat under full droop with N66L shocks!

Rear TB change not neccessary at all with TB relocation bracket. The bracket is actually recommended for rear full droop situations as well, because stock mount prone to bind under full droop in the rear ... might get bent/ripped off the axle!

Steering upgrade recommended for HEAVY tires >=33" ... 31-32" I donno ... should be OK.
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Lets say i go with #2 (mostly) - Stock Cover, Currie CE-9120 TB, 2" Bumpstop extension in front, OME 2.5" HD but with N66L shocks.
the Currie "TJS" track bar is the one you want. their other version is nothing more than JKS under a different name. the track bar and N66L requires 2" bumpstop extensions in front...just make sure you got that. you're loosing some uptravel vs stock TB + N66, but you'll gain a lot of downtravel.

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Will I be forced to change Rear TB or Steering right away? I plan on doing them but not willing to shell out $$$ all at one time
rear TB is up to you...do you want the axle centered perfectly? I did. the OME bracket places more stress on the stock mount...but the JKS TB by itself places stress on the mount too. you ultimately need to weld some reinforcement on, or better yet - replace the entire bracket.

stock tie-rod will get you around...but its pretty thin/weak/flemsy. the ZJ V8 tie-rod is an easy, cheap upgrade if you don't want to drop the coin for a Currie steering system.

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Shocks of this length will require extended brake lines too.
Yup they will. YJ front lines work good, and cheap.

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OME 2.5 HD springs might very likely unseat under full droop with N66L shocks!
they do, but just barely. still very usable.

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Rear TB change not neccessary at all with TB relocation bracket. The bracket is actually recommended for rear full droop situations as well, because stock mount prone to bind under full droop in the rear ... might get bent/ripped off the axle!
the bracket creates a larger lever arm...which eventually rips the stock bracket off the alxe too. pick your poison - either way you need to fabricate reinforcement for the bracket.

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Steering upgrade recommended for HEAVY tires >=33" ... 31-32" I donno ... should be OK.
the stock tie-rod sucks. upgrading to a ZJ V8 tie-rod is stupid easy, cheap and simple. no reason not to
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I live in MI, but travel to MN where they require full tire width coverage. So I think as long as I could flare it wide enough I'm good. I'm really only there for 2 weeks out of the year but don't need the attention from the fuzz.
good news MN doesn't require full tire width coverage, i was born and raised in MN.

drove my jeep with stock flares and 31x10.5 's had 4 inchs of tire out and never once got in any trouble.

i was worried about the same thing so i asked a cop and he said 50% needs to be covered, and then said but rarely will anyone get pulled over for that unless they are spraing mud all over on purpose.

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good news MN doesn't require full tire width coverage, i was born and raised in MN.

drove my jeep with stock flares and 31x10.5 's had 4 inchs of tire out and never once got in any trouble.

i was worried about the same thing so i asked a cop and he said 50% needs to be covered, and then said but rarely will anyone get pulled over for that unless they are spraing mud all over on purpose.
Sorry I've been MIA. Thank is awesome to know. I really don't need something stupid like that to taint the build.

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