Rubicon Express 4.5 L.A. vs. Full Traction 4" long arm?? - JeepForum.com
View Poll Results: Rubicon Express 4.5 L.A vs. Full Traction 4" long arm?
Rubicon Express 4.5 L.A. 23 54.76%
Full Traction 4" L.A. 19 45.24%
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post #1 of 22 Old 08-21-2005, 12:45 PM Thread Starter
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Rubicon Express 4.5 L.A. vs. Full Traction 4" long arm??

Hey Jeepers,

Im stuck in another pickle, the RE LA 4.5 or the full traction 4" long arm??


I want a lift that would fit 35s and that is great for off and on the roads!!

So, what do you guys think is better for on and off road??



Thanks alot!!

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post #2 of 22 Old 08-21-2005, 01:26 PM Thread Starter
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Does anyone know??
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post #3 of 22 Old 08-21-2005, 01:37 PM
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Eveyone I know runs the RE kit and say that it's great for both. Can't tell you about the FT LA kit sorry!
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post #4 of 22 Old 08-21-2005, 01:56 PM
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here's a Full Traction kit with 35"s. I also run there exhaust kit, a Tom Woods cv, and Bilstein 7100's. I like the stance, low CG, and aggressive looking. At full articulation with 3 1/2 " backspacing I squeeze the rear tire in and ever so slightly touch the inner lip of the fender well, and completely clear up front through out the turn radius while compressed. Very happy with the fit of the kit, look for yourself.
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I've got about 300 miles on the Kit now and so far would have to say I,m thoroughly thrilled with the on road performance of the kit. It drives straight and true and really is pretty quiet. You can here the heim joints every once in a while (rr track crossings). I don't think you can go wrong with either kit, just look for a good deal.

2003 Lt. Khaki Rubicon automatic
Supercharged 4.7 stroker w/ Hesco aluminum head
70mm F&B throttle body
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4" Full Traction LA with Bilstein 7100's
JKS 1" MM,BL. TeraFlex engine and steering armor
4.88's w/ 35 " Toyo Open Country m/t's
Moser Chromoly axle shafts front, Superior D44 rear
Warn 9.5ti on a M.O.R.E hi clearance bumper
Reid racing knuckles, Warn premium hubs
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ok,





thanks alot!!


did you have to have a body lift to clear 35s?
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post #7 of 22 Old 08-21-2005, 03:26 PM
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no body lift

2003 Lt. Khaki Rubicon automatic
Supercharged 4.7 stroker w/ Hesco aluminum head
70mm F&B throttle body
Kieth Black forged 944 pistons
Comp Cams custom ground camshaft
505 Performance PCM
Split Second Engineering fuel/timing management
Tom Woods CV driveshaft
50 lb/hr Trick Flow injectors
4" Full Traction LA with Bilstein 7100's
JKS 1" MM,BL. TeraFlex engine and steering armor
4.88's w/ 35 " Toyo Open Country m/t's
Moser Chromoly axle shafts front, Superior D44 rear
Warn 9.5ti on a M.O.R.E hi clearance bumper
Reid racing knuckles, Warn premium hubs
PIAA 525's, and 510's

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For SALE-- standard drop pitman arm redrilled with new 1 ton GM tye rod end (bottom mount). Perfect $30
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Without wanting to get into an argument on Heim joints, I prefer (and selected) RE's non-heim joint long arm kit because of how much time my TJ also spends on the street. I personally believe, wrong or right, that my RE's joints will last longer and be quieter without needing rebuilding than FT's Heim joints will. If my TJ spent more of its time on the trail, I might would have gone with the FT kit due to its triangulated rear-end. Though now that RE also has a triangulated rear-end, I'd pick my RE kit again if I had it to do over again. This is not to say the FT long arm kit is not also an oustanding suspension lift, it is.

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post #9 of 22 Old 08-21-2005, 04:54 PM Thread Starter
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well thanks,

then is there a lift kit availible that is just as capable/outstanding as the R.E. 4.5 L.A. kit just less expensive??
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Where is the option for Clayton's?

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clayton's what???








never heard of that
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post #12 of 22 Old 08-21-2005, 06:13 PM
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Clayton Offroad makes a kick *** up and coming suspension systems. I have seen first hand their XJ and TJ hard arm suspensions on the trail and on the RTI ramp. As well as taking it for a spin.

Check out http://www.claytonoffroad.com/ and look at the TJ Hard Arm suspension. It uses a 5 link front and 4 link triangulated and trussed rear.

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I have 5.5 R.E Long Arm with the rear triangulated as far as I am concerned there isnít a better lift. 90% of the TJ lifts on the Rubicon Trail are R.E. Long Arms.

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post #14 of 22 Old 08-22-2005, 08:06 AM
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I have a full traction 4 in short arm or flex arm rather lift kit. ive had it on for a little over 1500 miles and love it. very queit and i was really impressed with the quality of it and the ease of installation... 2 guys took 5 hours and i had never put one on before that... its a quality item in my view
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is clayton's hard arm (4") non-heim jointed??
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