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Unread 03-11-2012, 07:14 PM   #1
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Rubicon already lifted, but how much?

Just bought an 06 and I'm trying to sort out exactly what lift I have. The tires are Pro Comp LT305/70R16. I believe that equates to 33's. They are brand new. The shocks and steering stabilizes are labeled as Rough country, so I'm assuming the lift is also Rough Country.

I have measure the transfer case drop as 1 1/2".
The trac-bar mount was redrilled.
New/longer sway bar disconnects.

Looks like the oem brake lines as well as the drive shafts. So, i'm wondering how to tell how many inches it is lifted?

Here are some pictures of most components.

lower-control-arm.jpg   rear-driveshaft.jpg   shocks-rc.jpg   sway-bar-connect.jpg   track-bar-redrill.jpg  

transfer-case-drop1.5-.jpg   upper-mount.jpg  
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Unread 03-11-2012, 07:19 PM   #2
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well you are running 33s so without seeing a full shot of the rig and seeing rough country I am going to roll the dice that it is a 4" lift.
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Unread 03-11-2012, 07:37 PM   #3
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Check here for measuring lift height.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/fa...7/#post6077636

Then look at this and fix your front track bar mount.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/br...racket-905624/
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Unread 03-11-2012, 09:52 PM   #4
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Yup Rough Country 4'' lift.
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looks like the same arms I had on my rc 4 inch
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Unread 03-12-2012, 07:04 AM   #6
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well you are running 33s so without seeing a full shot of the rig and seeing rough country I am going to roll the dice that it is a 4" lift.
I wanted to include a shot of the Jeep, but it got too dark out and the picture didn't come out well enough. Will post later today.

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Check here for measuring lift height.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/fa...7/#post6077636



Then look at this and fix your front track bar mount.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/br...racket-905624/
Thanks for those links! I'm an old school CJer, and am trying to absorb the new to me coil suspension basics. Lots of reading.... I did peruse the FAQ's section, but missed that chart. Excellent.

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Yup Rough Country 4'' lift.
Thanks for helping to confirm what I wanted to hear.

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looks like the same arms I had on my rc 4 inch
Again, thanks all!
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Unread 03-12-2012, 08:38 AM   #7
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That's the old style 4" RC lift.You might want to upgrade those shocks for a better ride.I'd also ditch the t case drop for a MML and much smaller drop (or a SYE).
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Unread 03-12-2012, 03:40 PM   #8
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That's the old style 4" RC lift.You might want to upgrade those shocks for a better ride.I'd also ditch the t case drop for a MML and much smaller drop (or a SYE).
Funny you mention those two items! Logged on to complain/research two things.

Now that I have a whole 15 miles logged on the Jeep, I found out that the ride is very stiff or rough. I'm attributing most of it to the shocks. Any recommendations on a smoother ride. Afterall, that's why I purchased this TJ. If I want rough, i'll drive the CJ...

The second thing is the gear shifter. It pops out of reverse a lot. I got to looking at it, and see that the lowering kit caused the shift lever to hit the console housing. This won't let the lever properly mesh into reverse all the way.

Still trying to figure out a fix. I suppose 1/2" less of a lowered transfer case would do that. So would modifying the console housing, but not an easy thing looking at it. I'll look into MML but not sure what it is. Mile Marker???

Edit: Motor Mount Lift. Got it!
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I'll look into MML but not sure what it is. Mile Marker???
Motor mount lift.

If you have 4" of lift and stock brakelines, you probably want to replace 'em with YJ hoses.
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Ok, so I have a 1 1/2" T.C. lowering kit. Is it better to go with a 1" MML? Do I still need a T.C.L.K. if I Use M.O.R.E. MML?

Are there any issues with the fan hitting the radiator or hood clearance issues? I figure not, but want no surprises. I have to get this Rubicon driveable by Easter. It is marginal IMO as it is.
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I have to get this Rubicon driveable by Easter. It is marginal IMO as it is.
How's the steering? I ask because of the TB re-locate on the axle side.
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How's the steering? I ask because of the TB re-locate on the axle side.
You talking about the redrilled hole?

The TJ seems to steer nice enough. Unfortunately, I never had a chance to drive it stock, so nothing to guage it by. I have a friend who has the exact same Jeep, but he is on a sailboat in the V.I. right now drinking pina coladas...
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check for a drop pitman , usually people who buy that kit don't know any better and install the DP also. Replace with the OE and reset toe in .
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check for a drop pitman , usually people who buy that kit don't know any better and install the DP also. Replace with the OE and reset toe in .
Gary,
Thanks for thinking about that. The pitman arm is original.
I'm wondering if I should just replace the TCL kit with a 1" kit. That should clear the shifter lever problem up, but not kill the rear drive shaft until I can replace it. $$$
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That's the old style 4" RC lift.You might want to upgrade those shocks for a better ride.I'd also ditch the t case drop for a MML and much smaller drop (or a SYE).
I have a Rubicon, so I don't need the SYE correct? Just a Double Cardan shaft?
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