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Unread 07-19-2010, 10:47 PM   #1
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Rubi stuck six inches of snow?

Hello gentlemen,
So I have a coworker whos son has an 04 Rubi (same as mine). The guy was telling me that his son drove the Jeep to the side of the road onto a somewhat big pile of snow. He got stuck and had to get towed out. This was in a neighborhood and the snow was just on one side of the jeep. The other side was dry. Apparently just a small amount on the front of the house. It was dry everywhere else.

I am confused on something... I understand that with four-wheel drive only one wheel on each axle is doing the actual work and the other one just follows along. (please correct me if I am wrong). In my head that makes sense.

If the left wheel is the one doing the driving, and the left wheel gets stuckI wonít go anywhere because the wheel that does the driving has lost traction, correct??? But why not turn on the rear (or both) lockers on for a split second to get you out? Especially in that small amount of snow?
I had asked my co-worker if his son was in 4-wd and he said yes. I can see not being able to put the jeep in gear because of the Jeep not being level. I have to have the Jeep on even ground before I can put it in 4-lo. But from what he was telling me he had tried all that.

Now that I think about it... I had asked his son if he has taken the Jeep off the highway yet and he said no. He was going to wait sometime before wheeling it. It's too new apparently. WHAT? WTF MATE! Its a Jeep! You are supposed to have fun with it too! Not just drive it on the highway all the time! The guy before you probably wheeled the crap out of it! Its already five years old!

Back on topic, sorry. Maybe the kid didnít know about the lockers, but what do I know, Iím just a neewb and hence the question in the first place!

I would appreciate any suggestions you guys may have on the subject. And thanks for reading.

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Unread 07-19-2010, 10:56 PM   #2
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Ive had my Rubi through 18" to 2 feet of snow. It was on 33s but, if your stuck, put in it 4LO and lock the axles. Should get you right out. And 6" shouldnt even be up the the bottom of the diff.

I highly reccomend the locker mod to use them in 2 and 4 hi.
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Unread 07-19-2010, 11:01 PM   #3
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That's what I said! I've been considering the mod to turn on the lockers in 4-hi. Is this a pretty simple process?
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Unread 07-19-2010, 11:04 PM   #4
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With any axle... open or LSD-equipped, both sides always receive a 50-50 split of the power being sent in via its pinion shaft. Yes, that is true... a 50:50 split. The problem is that the axle can only accept the amount of torque from the engine that it takes before one side starts spinning. Any more than that and the differential will let the side with the least traction spin.

So when in 4x4, all four tires are receiving 25% of the engine's total available torque. Again, the engine can deliver no more torque than it takes to start a tire spinning so once that point is reached, the tires with better traction don't get enough torque to keep you moving.

Here are two stickes in our 4x4 Equipment section I wrote several years ago that may clear things up. Sorry they are a bit wordy but...

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f27/4...nswers-130169/
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f27/w...ad-4wd-242949/

So without knowing to engage the lockers or knowing a few basic offroading techniques on how to get out of that situation, it is entirely possible for even a Rubicon to get stuck in such a deceivingly simple situation that many would consider easy to get out of.
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That's what I said! I've been considering the mod to turn on the lockers in 4-hi. Is this a pretty simple process?
I used a paper clip at first, then after a while it fell out.
So then I took the dash apart again, not that bad once you do it a couple times, I cut and spliced using the chart(just search Rubi locker mod on gogle) so that I could engage them in 2 and 4 hi under 10 mph(no accidents on the highway) and 4 lo at any speed.
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He must have had some crappy bald tires or been mentally challenged to get stuck in 6in of snow. especially if only one side was in the snow i almost got stuck in 3ft of snow up in the mountains (good thing i had friends to get out and push ) but i wouldn't even need to use 4hi in 6ins!
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Unread 07-19-2010, 11:39 PM   #7
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When I first got my Rubi I had gone up to the mountains and going around a curve to what I thought was the road I started to slide down the side of the mountain. Thankfully the angle wasn't too steep and there were trees to keep the Jeep upright. I was stuck in three feet of snow. There was a rock on my front tire so there was no way I was going to get out of there. I just splipped and slid sideways. With the help of six guys a cherokee towing and lockers I was able to get out. After being stuck in some deep snow twice I had learned my lesson. I bought a winch.

The first time I got stuck I was in my 96 Grand Cherokee. I got stuck "really" good in the mountains. A Rubi had pulled me out and dragged me back down the road. I fell in love with that Jeep. I had always wanted one ever since. That thing was awesome. And now I have one! So its time to return the favor. When the Colorado snow hits I'll be carrying my snow shovel and snatch stap to return the favor when in need and hopefully turn someone else into a Jeeper.
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I've had my Rubi in 4hi with the lockers locked in well over 3ft snow with 33s, pulling snowmobile trailers out of the field and have not been close to being stuck. I did get stuck one time 2 years ago though, but that was in about 1.5" of snow with almost bald tires 4/32nds remaining. Even the lockers couldn't get me out, so I walked back to my house about 200ft and got a shovel, dug around all 4 tires and it climbed right out. I would say the story above is either a lie, a fib, or the kid doesn't know what he is doing, and the jeep doesn't need to be flat to go into 4 low.

Also do the Rubicon Locker mod, I installed mine with a switch, so I don't accidentally hit the wrong buttons going down the road which could be bad, I mounted the switch down near my e-brake handle.
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...I can see not being able to put the jeep in gear because of the Jeep not being level. I have to have the Jeep on even ground before I can put it in 4-lo. ...
What am I missing here? I shift mine in/out of 4Lo all the time in up/down hill situations and when off-camber. Why do you have to be on flat ground to do it?
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you have snow in July :shock:
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That's what I said! I've been considering the mod to turn on the lockers in 4-hi. Is this a pretty simple process?
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What am I missing here? I shift mine in/out of 4Lo all the time in up/down hill situations and when off-camber. Why do you have to be on flat ground to do it?
When I try to shift it it really doesn't like it. it grinds like crazy and sometimes the lever doesn't move at all. I wonder if the previous owner was careless with it. I don't want to break something, so I make sure to be on an even surface before shifting to 4-lo.
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As long as your stopped and in neutral it shouldn't make a difference oratleast to my knowledge it shouldn't.
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