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Unread 02-09-2008, 08:25 AM   #1
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Rubi D44 for $1400

I was just looking through my Peterson 4 wheel and off road magazine and it has an article on the JK Rubi D44 Axle for $1,400. E-locker, 4.10 gears, disc brakes and the front one is high pinion. That sounds like a screaming deal!! It's not a direct bolt in swap to a tj, but the article makes it sound like the swap isn't too bad. Has anyone heard of this or done this swap? I'm not looking into it for me, but a buddy is looking at upgrading. Any thoughts?

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Unread 02-09-2008, 09:42 AM   #2
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I read the same info let's hear some info if anyone has done this. I'am getting ready to do an axle swap rebuild of some sort with the 35 thread going and then seeing this I'am trying to make my mind up and get rolling.
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Unread 02-09-2008, 09:49 AM   #3
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The bolt pattern is different for the rim. 5x5.5 I think.
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Unread 02-09-2008, 09:51 AM   #4
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I didn't like that part but you are right the pattern is different
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Unread 02-09-2008, 10:00 AM   #5
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And the axle is 5" wider. If you search it's been pretty much beaten to death here and I haven't seen anyone sucessfully do an install.

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And the axle is 5" wider. If you search it's been pretty much beaten to death here and I haven't seen anyone sucessfully do an install.

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OUCH. I did not check on the length thats a lot. Thaks for the info
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Could you not get some spacers for the frontend and also get the 5 on 5 lug pattern? Problem solved if that a viable options.
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Unread 02-09-2008, 11:40 AM   #8
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I think you misunderstood...the JK axle is 5" wider. That in itself is a big problem. Spacers will make it even worse, so you have to buy new wheels with a lot of backspacing, and it still wouldn't be desirable. I'm sure it can be done, but you'd have to do both axles.
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Unread 02-09-2008, 01:25 PM   #9
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JK axle is wider and that would not be a problem, IE wheels with less backspacing. JK axle is actually 5x5 not 5x5.5 like old cj's either use adapters which you can already buy or just buy new wheels, brackettry is where your main problems are. The JK 44's also are stronger than TJ 44's thicker tubes higher spline count and maybe more.
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JK axle is wider and that would not be a problem, IE wheels with less backspacing. JK axle is actually 5x5 not 5x5.5 like old cj's either use adapters which you can already buy or just buy new wheels, brackettry is where your main problems are. The JK 44's also are stronger than TJ 44's thicker tubes higher spline count and maybe more.
Wheels with less backspacing will make them stick out even farther. You'd need wheels with more backspacing to tuck them under. Unless you find/use a wheel with a 6" +/- backspace, it's going to be a pretty wide track. Which may not be a problem, but you'd have to be willing to accept that.
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haha I did this swap front and rear... I did it under my xj though. Front all you have to do is move the spring perches in 1 3/4's... Rear is simple as well... Just a little cutting and welding. And yes your right its tube is much thicker and axle shaft are much larger. And the witch is alwsome. Wider is a good thing, keeps you right side up. Best money spent for sure.
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haha I did this swap front and rear... I did it under my xj though. Front all you have to do is move the spring perches in 1 3/4's... Rear is simple as well... Just a little cutting and welding. And yes your right its tube is much thicker and axle shaft are much larger. And the witch is alwsome. Wider is a good thing, keeps you right side up. Best money spent for sure.
Simple for your XJ rear. Brackets for your leaf springs and you're pretty much done. By the time you buy a bracket kit, move all the brackets/convert to TJ setup you're probably in the ballpark of a turnkey 44 already set up for a TJ. Nothing really gained after you have to replace the wheels (more$ ) to deal with the bolt pattern.

Front I could make an argument for considering it's a HP axle, but the TJ knuckles won't fit that either. Any way you go it's *much* more than $1400 an end to do the swap.

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...Front I could make an argument for considering it's a HP axle, but the TJ knuckles won't fit that either. Any way you go it's *much* more than $1400 an end to do the swap.

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The JK front axles are complete with brakes and everything, so the TJ knuckles being different is no big deal.
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some guy on the JU TJ forum is doing it right now.
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Simple for your XJ rear. Brackets for your leaf springs and you're pretty much done. By the time you buy a bracket kit, move all the brackets/convert to TJ setup you're probably in the ballpark of a turnkey 44 already set up for a TJ. Nothing really gained after you have to replace the wheels (more$ ) to deal with the bolt pattern.

Front I could make an argument for considering it's a HP axle, but the TJ knuckles won't fit that either. Any way you go it's *much* more than $1400 an end to do the swap.

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the Jk front is a high pinion. I haven't done the JK swap or read about the JK swap but a D44 ready to bolt in to a tj is around $2500 +/-. hard for me to belive that a shop couldn't cut and or weld the correct brackets on a jk D44 for less than $1,100.
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