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post #16 of 39 Old 07-20-2010, 08:11 PM
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to the op dont forget if u get the rc call and ask for the 10% jf discount and its free shipping i believe

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post #17 of 39 Old 07-21-2010, 01:50 AM
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Don't misunderstand my comment about 35's. You could run 35's on this kit. But if you have a budget of roughly $500 + tires, than 35's shouldn't be in the question. If anyone still does not understand what I'm getting at search for the thread that has a good detailed description of everything needed to run 35" tires.

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I've run and installed several RC series II lifts with the 2.2 shocks and have never had any problems or complaints.I always run 35's(eventually) and add a BL or 3/4" spacers up front.I always ditch the huge t case drop supplied and do a MML.On all of my installs I've only had to drop the t case 1/2" to get rid of all vibes.
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RC 4" with 3/4" front spacers and 1" BL with 35's.

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post #19 of 39 Old 07-21-2010, 09:20 AM Thread Starter
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ive read that using the 2.2's are worth the money as far as ride quality and flew, but whats the main reason for the ca's ripping off their mounts with this kit?? is it just b/c that they are fixed?

im worried about that b/c ive been hearing alot more about that happening lately
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ive read that using the 2.2's are worth the money as far as ride quality and flew, but whats the main reason for the ca's ripping off their mounts with this kit?? is it just b/c that they are fixed?

im worried about that b/c ive been hearing alot more about that happening lately
I've never had that problem,but I prefer to use the stock control arms on mine.
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post #21 of 39 Old 07-21-2010, 01:21 PM
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The reason the control arms rip off the mounts in some cases is because of the poly bushings on both ends of new control arms. When the axle flexes under the jeep, not only does it move up and down but it also rotates. When it rotates and the control arms dont have some sort of joint on at least one side that flexes (ex. Heim, Johnny joint, RC flex joint, etc) all the forces is transmitted from the super ridged poly bushing into the control arm mount. When the suspension really flexes on offroad this can actually rip the weak mount off.

The reason this isn't as common of an accuance with factory arms is because of the design of the rubber bushing and the arms are actually built to slightly flex rotationally and not be super ridged

Open this thread and look at the originals posters build specs. Notice the suspension lift
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/co...-axle-1026035/

Further evidence just in case anyone is still a non believer
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/up...-frame-835853/

All hear say right?

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The reason the control arms rip off the mounts in some cases is because of the poly bushings on both ends of new control arms. When the axle flexes under the jeep, not only does it move up and down but it also rotates. When it rotates and the control arms dont have some sort of joint on at least one side that flexes (ex. Heim, Johnny joint, RC flex joint, etc) all the forces is transmitted from the super ridged poly bushing into the control arm mount. When the suspension really flexes on offroad this can actually rip the weak mount off.

The reason this isn't as common of an accuance with factory arms is because of the design of the rubber bushing and the arms are actually built to slightly flex rotationally and not be super ridged

Open this thread and look at the originals posters build specs. Notice the suspension lift
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/co...-axle-1026035/

Further evidence just in case anyone is still a non believer
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/up...-frame-835853/

All hear say right?

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My control arms came with rubber bushings not urethane.
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post #24 of 39 Old 07-21-2010, 05:46 PM
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the rc lifts only come with rubber now, poly was on the old kits, and the new kits are much better all around. most people just say what they hear and have no experience with the kit at all.

DO IT ALL, AND THAN SOME!
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post #25 of 39 Old 07-21-2010, 06:39 PM Thread Starter
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thats y i started this thread im trying to figure out exactly wut im getting and getting into b4 i throw 500$ into a kit...so ur sayin the new kit have rubber bushings in the ca's?
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post #26 of 39 Old 07-21-2010, 06:47 PM
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I didn't realize that RC now uses rubber instead of poly bushings. With that said, rubber is definitely an upgrade over poly in terms of a standard control arm bushing. But a rubber bushing will still not allow the same kind of rotation that a flex joint will. Under heavy articulation you can still manage to rip off a CA bracket. For regular street use rubber bushings are perfectly acceptable, but as the OP mentioned he would like to use this jeep offroad and most people use their jeeps understand the benefit of disconnecting vs connected in terms of the sway bad. We won't even get into offroad swaybars in this thread.

As I stated in my original post, there is nothibg wrong with this kit if you plan to keep the jeep on road. I simpley stated the reasons why people complain about the harsh ride with this kit. I tried to persued him to go a different direction with parts or better quality because he admitted he would most likely upgrade components in the future. Good spring, nice riding shocks, and stock control arms and going to ride better on road and perform better offroad than the 4" RC basic kit, this is an unarguable fact, and would cost roughly the same price.

Take my advice supported by fact if you want, or take others who have the kit and think I'm full of crap. The choice is yours. I wish someone would have talked me into spending my money on better parts when I got my jeep bc I wouldn't be about to start the rebuild with the good stuff! If there are multiple gramatical errors in this post I appologize, I'm sitting in a film class writing this on my blackberry.

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post #27 of 39 Old 07-21-2010, 06:53 PM Thread Starter
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talked to joey on rough country's live chat ...they've been using rubber bushings on their kits for a year and a half now and they seem to have alot less issues....he's a pretty cool cat
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let me get into more detail as far as the offroading in my jeep in the future atleast fro a good few years...i really wont be doing any kind of serious offroading for a good length of time b/c i have just bought this jeep and im still paying on it ,not to mention that this is my daily driver.

so i guess some light trail riding and some occasional offroading
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post #29 of 39 Old 07-21-2010, 07:02 PM
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I will give rough country credit for having possibly the best customer service in the game. They have always been helpful, friendly, and knowledgeable when I had questions. I'm just warning you of what the expect with this kit and the possible related issues with it. RC does make some very good products for a very fair price. Their 4" x-series kit may be the best quality 4" short arm kit for the money on the market. Hell, my RC stinger and winch plate are really high quality, from fit to finish. I am by no means and expert and I'm learning everyday. I just pass along what I've come to learn by reading through the forum over the last 2 years. Please don't take me as one of those members that has the attitude that you have to have currie, clayton, tnt and other high end products to have a well built jeep because that's not what I'm about.

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Buy their 4 inch lift. Later down the road if you want a significant change just order their long arm upgrade. You would still have less money in doing it that way than you would just buying the higher dollar short arm kits.
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