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Unread 10-18-2004, 11:36 AM   #1
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Rockkrawler vs. Full-Traction Long Arm

Anyone have any comments or suggestions about these kits. The Rockkrawler Kit is substantially less expensive and seems to have the same basic geometry of the Full-Traction Kit. Why the extra cost of the latter. Quality or name brand? I am going to be putting a long arm kit on my Rubicon and just want to get the most bang for my buck.

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Unread 10-18-2004, 12:54 PM   #2
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i dont really know the difference, but im about to convert to long arm with rockkrawlers system
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Unread 10-18-2004, 12:59 PM   #3
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One of the major reasons the RK kit is cheaper is because it does not include a new trans/t-case skid plate.
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Unread 10-18-2004, 12:59 PM   #4
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i dont really know the difference, but im about to convert to long arm with rockkrawlers system
Of the long arm kits that are out there, the RK would be my last choice, too many reports of broken components. Of the various LA kits being sold now, I'd only go with Rubicon Express or Full Traction. I chose RE's LA kit, it's great, but would have been nearly as happy with FT's too. Both are superb products with various tradeoffs.
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Unread 10-18-2004, 01:07 PM   #5
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If it was me I would get the full traction i have herd alot of good things about there long arms and the suspensions
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Unread 10-18-2004, 03:45 PM   #6
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Of the long arm kits that are out there, the RK would be my last choice, too many reports of broken components. Of the various LA kits being sold now, I'd only go with Rubicon Express or Full Traction. I chose RE's LA kit, it's great, but would have been nearly as happy with FT's too. Both are superb products with various tradeoffs.
Ok..i hate doing this to you Jerry cause normally you are right but this time you aren't. Yes in the Past RK stuff has broken, but mostly it was the welds no the actual kit itself. And now with the second generation kits there have been NO reports of breakage yet. So please stop spreadign false rumors.

as for which is better...there is no answer. personally i like the idea of having a 4 link front and a 4 link rear....less binding and a ton more flex. yes the RK doesn't come with a new skid, but that is good. The FT/RE skids are only 1-2" higher than a factory skid....im gonna get the Nth degree flat skid with my la upgrade....thats alot of gain

so basically it breaks down to what you want and what you can afford to get. both are great kits and both have thier disadvantages.
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Unread 10-18-2004, 06:37 PM   #7
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I have the RK 4 link conversion that I just installed. I will let you know how it does, doing Johnspn Valley (sledgehammer) this weekend. The control arms are made from solid stock. Nothing welded on.
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Unread 10-18-2004, 07:11 PM   #8
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I would probably lean towards the Fulltraction setup. I like the triangulated rear on both setups, but the missing traditional fourth link on the front of the rockkrawler design wierds me out. I've seen ears broken off of axles and diff housings before and is seems like a catastrophic failure of an ear on anything over rockcrawling speeds would be...well....catastrophic! I've lost one link on my triangulated rear while crawling and that was an experience... I can't imagine what loosing a front link at highway speeds would do!
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Unread 10-18-2004, 08:16 PM   #9
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3 link in the front is becoming very popular.
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Unread 10-18-2004, 08:25 PM   #10
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I have the RK 5.5 with the weld on rear ca mount and have wheeled it HARD! No breakage here. It is a second gen system. I'd recommend them to anyone. Their customer service is great. They probably should have changed their name since they still can't shake the rep they recieved after a few first gen failures.
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Unread 10-19-2004, 12:11 AM   #11
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A lot of guys on ROF are running the RK lifts with great results. Their 2nd gen kits seem to be top-notch, and that's what I'm planning on installing next spring. Very flexy, good road manners, and a good price. From what I've seen, RE is a worse company to deal with than RK.
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rockkrawler all the way .
this kit is way more beefy and will not let you down


arms are solid 1 3/4 stock this kit rocks for monster flex



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Unread 10-19-2004, 04:47 AM   #13
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Of the long arm kits that are out there, the RK would be my last choice, too many reports of broken components. Of the various LA kits being sold now, I'd only go with Rubicon Express or Full Traction. I chose RE's LA kit, it's great, but would have been nearly as happy with FT's too. Both are superb products with various tradeoffs.
Why did you choose the RE kit over the Full Traction kit. I've been looking at them both and can't decide which one I would be happier with. Full Traction has a 3 link rear and the front arms all use new frame mounts. REs kit uses radius?? upper arms that connect to the lower arms and a 4 link rear. Do you happen to know which skid requires less drilling? I saw the instructions for the RE kit and you have to make a bunch of 1" holes. Could pose a problem if later down the road you wanted to swap kits.
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I have the RK 4 link conversion that I just installed. I will let you know how it does, doing Johnspn Valley (sledgehammer) this weekend. The control arms are made from solid stock. Nothing welded on.
you will be very happy with it...i know i am. i just put the re 4.5" in with the rk rear and love the handling and the little bit of flexing i have done. just make sure you extend your rear brakelines or they will snap....i almost learned that the hard way.
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Unread 10-19-2004, 03:46 PM   #15
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I lready have extended brake lines. I also welded the rear plate like the pic Yogi has. I ddin't want those damn u bolts getting hung up.
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