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post #1 of 19 Old 08-11-2017, 12:56 PM Thread Starter
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recommendations Synthetic or Rotella

Looking for input on going synthetic oil or Rotella on a new to me 04 Rubicon. Not sure what p.o. used on this 75,000 mile 4.0.

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post #2 of 19 Old 08-11-2017, 01:06 PM
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Me personally, wouldn't switch to synthetic after a motor has been ran thousands of miles with conventional. Just what my dad always told me. I am by no means any kind of expert with oils, just have experience with a 93 Wrangler 4.0, 2004 Rubicon and a 06 Rubicon. Combined over 200,000 miles with nothing but 10w30 valvoline and Napa filters, never had any leaks or issues oil related with any of the jeeps. 3-5k changes always.

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post #3 of 19 Old 08-11-2017, 01:25 PM
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I use walmart brand oil and have a fleet of vehicles in my family.. 3 of the cars have over 150k each.. My truck 180 and 2 newer cars with 118k and 29k and a couple jeeps all over 150k.... ALL on walmart oil... The right weight and filters and change when the light comes on or 5k.. Nothing more. Over thinking oil and willingness to pay for snake oil is a big bonus for those selling that stuff... Me, I go by results.. Oh and I managed a small fleet of 8 half ton chevy trucks all got over 275k miles before we got new ones, blew 12 transmissions up and a few rear ends.. Engines never a issue.. 1000's of hours of idling also...... Changed oil every 14k..... cheap walmart oil..
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I'm no fan of synthetics either excepting in extreme cold weather conditions like in Alaska, Buffalo NY, North Dakota, Minnesota, etc. where their good low-temp flow characteristics are not in doubt. I use nothing but Valvoline 5W-30 or 10W-30 but would be just as happy using Castrol, Mobil, Havoline, etc. if Valvoline were to disappear tomorrow. Today's conventional multi-weight oils are superb, there's no real benefit to running a synthetic except in those uber-cold conditions. 50+ years of nearly nothing but conventional motor oils in my engines and I've yet to have an engine failure.

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Change it regularly and go with whatever dino oil and filter combo is on special at the parts store when you walk in.
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post #6 of 19 Old 08-11-2017, 02:16 PM
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I run Rotella 15-40 and change every 4000-5000 miles. Just run good oil and change regularly. I tried synthetic too when I bought it and the lifters were real noisy with it. I also replace a quart of oil with a quart of lucas at every oil change.
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Mine drips the least with regular Castrol 10w30. Add a wix filter, done and done.
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The Dollar Store oil works for me. I do use Mopar oil filters from Walmart though.

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post #9 of 19 Old 08-11-2017, 06:26 PM
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T5 10w30 here. No problems, not very expensive. Supposed to have more zinc than other oils that is the only reason I run it.
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I run 10w30 Mobil One synthetic. I buy the 5 quart jug and then mix the extra 2 quarts of oil I buy 50/50 with a bottle of Lucas Oil ZDDP additive. Refill the empty quart bottles and save the remaining oil in case I need to add a little before the next oil change. The M1 is for the Banks turbo and the ZDDP is for the OPDA. I never have to add oil so I always have the 6th premixed quart on hand for the next oil change. Just pulled my OPDA for inspection and it and the cam gear are looking good.
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Me personally, wouldn't switch to synthetic after a motor has been ran thousands of miles with conventional. Just what my dad always told me. I am by no means any kind of expert with oils, just have experience with a 93 Wrangler 4.0, 2004 Rubicon and a 06 Rubicon. Combined over 200,000 miles with nothing but 10w30 valvoline and Napa filters, never had any leaks or issues oil related with any of the jeeps. 3-5k changes always.
I have always heard that but from experience doing so I don't think it's a problem unless you already have a small leak to begin with. Switched mine to synthetic at 88,000 miles now at 99,000 and no leaks. Switched my Harley at 23,000 now at 25,000 no leaks. The synthetic flows better at colder temperatures so maybe that explains why a drip could turn into a puddle.
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post #12 of 19 Old 08-11-2017, 07:38 PM
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10-30 Rotella for mine, it seems to like it.
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post #13 of 19 Old 08-12-2017, 03:32 AM
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I have a 2006, 4.0. It had 90k miles when I purchased, no leaks. First oil change I opted for synthetic boom rear main started leaking and making a mess of the garage. I researched online and others have had same issue. Just a word of caution. I agree, that routine oil changes are key no matter what oil you use but would be hesitant to change with that many miles.

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post #14 of 19 Old 08-12-2017, 05:45 AM
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Change it regularly and go with whatever dino oil and filter combo is on special at the parts store when you walk in.
This for me also, or WalMart's SuperTech. And if on sale, the hi-mileage stuff to help with RMS minor drip. 10/30 BTW.

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post #15 of 19 Old 08-12-2017, 05:54 AM
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Whatever regular oil is on sale at NAPA and a NAPA Gold filter, high mileage formula preferred. 270k Miles, uses no oil between changes.

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