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Unread 05-31-2009, 06:58 AM   #61
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Forgive my ignorance here but can this problem also be solved by increasing the length of the bumpstops by, say, 2.5 inches or is there more to it than that?

I understand that when you get a new kit you want it to be set up right so you are getting what you paid for and new proper length shocks would be ideal but would this work as an interm solution or not?
yes, you could put 2.5" bumpstops in. but you'll have hardly any up travel and you'll be hitting the bumpstops all day long driving on the street. thats why you want to fix the uptravel problem, so the axle can actually move up AND down. With the long shock RC setup its only moving down and hardly any up. And when it does move down, the shock isn't even being used fully because it extends more than the axle can move down.

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Unread 05-31-2009, 07:37 AM   #62
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i just ordered that kit b/c of what i read on jf. just waiting to put it on when i go home on r&r. i guess i have to order my shockshifter bracket to go with it.
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Unread 05-31-2009, 07:44 AM   #63
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yes, you could put 2.5" bumpstops in. but you'll have hardly any up travel and you'll be hitting the bumpstops all day long driving on the street. thats why you want to fix the uptravel problem, so the axle can actually move up AND down. With the long shock RC setup its only moving down and hardly any up. And when it does move down, the shock isn't even being used fully because it extends more than the axle can move down.
Ok, but if I am running 33x10.5R15, won't I have to increase my bumpstops anyway, regardless of the "shock problem?"
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Unread 05-31-2009, 10:17 AM   #64
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Ok, but if I am running 33x10.5R15, won't I have to increase my bumpstops anyway, regardless of the "shock problem?"
I'm running 33x12.5x15 and I have no problems with stock bumpstops. I have RC 2.5 + 1.25 bl and I have barely any rubbing at full flex, and I mean barely.
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Unread 05-31-2009, 10:40 AM   #65
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I'm running 33x12.5x15 and I have no problems with stock bumpstops. I have RC 2.5 + 1.25 bl and I have barely any rubbing at full flex, and I mean barely.
Right, but I only have the 2.5 lift - no body lift
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Unread 05-31-2009, 10:41 AM   #66
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Ok, but if I am running 33x10.5R15, won't I have to increase my bumpstops anyway, regardless of the "shock problem?"

bumptops don't need to be increased in the rear for 33" tire clearance, shock length is another story.... just the front for 33" tires, depending on the backspacing of the wheels, you may rub the flares, which only makes noise, not damage. 4.5" backspacing will clear the best.

if you're going with the rc 2.5 and the 1.25" bl you need a minimum of 1" bumpstops up front, the front shocks need 1" anyhow to keep em from bottoming out. without a bl, 2" bumpstops minimum up front...
the length of the rc rear shocks translates to 2.5" bumpstops even if you don't add in the axle mounted bumpstops. the shock relocation still needs about 1" of bumpstop...


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Unread 05-31-2009, 12:35 PM   #67
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i just ordered that kit b/c of what i read on jf. just waiting to put it on when i go home on r&r. i guess i have to order my shockshifter bracket to go with it.

I'll send anyone thats interested in making their own, a pattern of my relocation brackets... they can be cut out with an angle grinder and welded into place, the materials needed are ...

1 scrap piece of 3/16" 2"x3" 12" long tube, cost is about 3 bucks at your local steel yard that has scrap cuttoffs.

2 5/8"x3" bolts
4 5/8" flat washers
2 5/8" lock washers
4 5/8" nuts

the hardware is around 7 bucks... you'll need a 5/8" drill bit to knock out the hole.


I'm only interested in helping with the solution to a common problem not bashing rc, (which isn't the ONLY 2.5-4" lift kit manufacture with this very same problem BTW) or making any money....

so, for all our fellow Do-It-Yourself people here....

a self addressed stamped envelope labled "shock mount" sent to po box 869 Estacada, OR 97023 will get you my pattern which isn't a copy of any you can buy, I free hand sketched, and fitted it using only a pencil and a 4 1/2" grinder...

pics will be here soon..

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stock mount, rc 24" shock...



relocated mount, same rc 24" shock..





sorry for this one.. I did this after work.. it got dark.



this is it.. cut out using only a 4 1/2" cuttoff wheel in an angle grinder.. any DIY'er can do and benifit from this, including getting rid of the tail pipe rubbing the paint off the shock..

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Right, but I only have the 2.5 lift - no body lift
I ran without my bl installed for about 3 months, no problems.
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Unread 06-01-2009, 10:06 AM   #69
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a self addressed stamped envelope labled "shock mount" sent to po box 869 Estacada, OR 97023 will get you my pattern which isn't a copy of any you can buy, I free hand sketched, and fitted it using only a pencil and a 4 1/2" grinder...

pics will be here soon..
why not just post it up here for everyone to see?
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Unread 06-01-2009, 10:40 AM   #70
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Not wanting to sound ignorant but are the shocks too long for the 3.25 as well as the 2.5?
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Unread 06-01-2009, 12:30 PM   #71
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You know, I noticed my shocks seemed to be a bit compressed too but I did not think to ask why...

I tested mine out and my LJs rears bottom out just coming off my drive way (az driveways have a bump, not smooth). It also explains some of the ride issues I have noticed on bumpy terrain... once they bottom out, all that energy is transmitted to rest of the jeep pretty harshly...

This happens on mine running a soft top and just me in the vehicle...

I am about to head out on a yearly camping trip to the mountains so I hope I do not have a failure when I load my gear... Would not be fun to be stuck out in the boons with a LJ full of gear and no rear shocks or blown mounts...

I still love the kit, the price, and the customer service from RC...
I think some shorter shocks will be needed in the rear though....

I will shoot some pics of mine tonight....
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Unread 06-01-2009, 01:34 PM   #72
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Ive got the 3.25 lift I have nt had any issues. I wouldn't mind a shorter shock do to getting a little more travel. Here's some pics








I ended up welding up the rear trac bar bracket due to I was Shearing the bottom bolts off.
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Unread 06-01-2009, 02:28 PM   #73
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do you have a dropped pitman arm running the 3.25?
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Unread 06-01-2009, 03:30 PM   #74
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Nope, I just did the front and rear adjustable track bars. But that was not required.
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I have the 2.5 lift with 33x12.50x15's and stock bumpstops, this is what it looks like while resting with one wheel on and the other side on a jackstand, so pretty much how it sits normal. Does this look normal?




There seems to be about an inch of down travel left, I don't think that can be right?
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