Really quick S35 question - Page 2

Pionex311 · 08-24-2008, 02:33 PM

The guy I'm going to is the same guy that installed my RE 5.5" long arm. I think that I'd have no problem going back to him for this kind of job. Also, I've read a lot on these forums about the S35 and I don't think its a bandaid of any sort. I'm actually so impressed by the amount of people that run with an upgraded 35 that I am willing to take the chance of running the S35 on my Jeep. I'm going to consider this as a learning experience for myself.

Pionex311 · 08-24-2008, 02:39 PM

On the other hand, I don't want anyone coming on to this thread trying to say that I should move up to Ford axles. I've already made up my mind and I won't be swayed on it.

3S00W · 08-25-2008, 11:19 AM

Any recommendations for a Jeep Barbie Powerwheels?

Pionex311 · 08-25-2008, 11:32 AM

a broom stick

**mrblaine** · 08-25-2008, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg_Volkman

no, but if you guys leave your lockers engaged all day long you drive a bit differently than me....specially in the front it's not uncommon to disengage the locker to make tight turns. in snow, both lockers when on sidehills, too.

at any rate, having onboard air already, it was less expensive to buy the kit to run it off the tank.

If you think you have to disengage your locker to get your rig to turn, then you need to go back to steering school.

Not only that, but disengaging the locker is only a placebo unless you do it far enough back from the obstacle to achieve neutral in the locking gears and get them to relax enough to spring apart.

I can get full lock to lock steering anytime, anywhere the tires are physically able to do so, locked or unlocked. Fix your steering.

FLATFENDER54 · 08-25-2008, 12:53 PM

My jeep itself does not turn as tight when in 4wd (lunchbox locker) as compared to 2wd. The steering wheel and steering turns the same amount but the jeep kind of wants to push thru a turn if you know what I mean but I guess thats just because its in 4wd and nothing to do with being locked or not

**mrblaine** · 08-25-2008, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by FLATFENDER54

My jeep itself does not turn as tight when in 4wd (lunchbox locker) as compared to 2wd. The steering wheel and steering turns the same amount but the jeep kind of wants to push thru a turn if you know what I mean but I guess thats just because its in 4wd and nothing to do with being locked or not

The ARB is the same as your lunchbox locker after you lock it. It won't unlock under torque no matter how many times you flip that little switch until you get the locking sections to neutral torque on them.

It's also very easy to prove. Jack up one side so you can spin the tire by hand. Flip the switch to engage until you can't spin the tire, keep pressure on it trying to rotate it and flip the switch off. Until you rotate the tire back to release pressure on the locking parts, you still won't get it to turn.

EvilM0nkey · 08-25-2008, 02:35 PM

I'll be interested to see how an ARB works in a S35 as opposed to the Detroit. I love my detroit but it gets annoying sometimes when it goes into the "parking spot judder" and time I make a hard turn at slow speeds.

Pionex311 · 08-25-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JeepinRoss

I'll be interested to see how an ARB works in a S35 as opposed to the Detroit. I love my detroit but it gets annoying sometimes when it goes into the "parking spot judder" and time I make a hard turn at slow speeds.

When I get back from my deployment, about a month left, I'll post and tell you guys what I think about it. I'm hoping that it's going to work out great.

EvilM0nkey · 08-25-2008, 02:41 PM

I know it will work great on the trails as mine has. Even on sand it makes a huge difference.

Greg_Volkman · 08-25-2008, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mrblaine

If you think you have to disengage your locker to get your rig to turn, then you need to go back to steering school.

Not only that, but disengaging the locker is only a placebo unless you do it far enough back from the obstacle to achieve neutral in the locking gears and get them to relax enough to spring apart.

I can get full lock to lock steering anytime, anywhere the tires are physically able to do so, locked or unlocked. Fix your steering.

typically we reverse a little to help that. when i have time/money i plan to work on the steering. E-6 budget, you know.

never monday · 08-25-2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ohtenwillys

wow.. if youre paying a shop.. you might as well pull a big bearing 9inch from a junkyard and have them plop that in... super 35s are just bandaids for silly problems that you could just avoid by getting a stronger axle
plus chicks dig ford axles

shakes his head and walks away...

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Originally Posted by Greg_Volkman

oh god, here we go, and please note - it wasn't me :-)

i'm out.

for Greg. Find me on the lake bed in Feb. I'll have one in the cooler.

**Jerry Bransford** · 08-25-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JeepinRoss

I love my detroit but it gets annoying sometimes when it goes into the "parking spot judder" and time I make a hard turn at slow speeds.

Mine hasn't done that in so long that it's probably been five years. Maybe because I pretty well coast through any sharp turns which the Detroit Locker responds well to.

**mrblaine** · 08-25-2008, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg_Volkman

typically we reverse a little to help that. when i have time/money i plan to work on the steering. E-6 budget, you know.

I'm most happy you understand. You have no idea how irritating it is in JV watching someone time and time again in the middle of a turn reach down and unlock the front ARB. I ask them why? To turn better. Then of course they aren't quite on the line, they forget to turn it back on, spin a tire, lose the line and have to start over. And here we go again.

Turn the tires, unlock the locker, spin off the line, over and over. And no matter how many times I say they never got the locker to unlock, they keep doing it.

After about 20 or 30 times of that, they get a new spotter.

**Jerry Bransford** · 08-26-2008, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mrblaine

I'm most happy you understand. You have no idea how irritating it is in JV watching someone time and time again in the middle of a turn reach down and unlock the front ARB. I ask them why? To turn better. Then of course they aren't quite on the line, they forget to turn it back on, spin a tire, lose the line and have to start over. And here we go again.

Turn the tires, unlock the locker, spin off the line, over and over. And no matter how many times I say they never got the locker to unlock, they keep doing it.

After about 20 or 30 times of that, they get a new spotter.

So I guess my auto lockers do have some kind of an advantage over the ARB afterall. I can't shut them off.

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