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Unread 11-19-2011, 09:32 PM   #1
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Question about lifts

Hello all. I just bought my very first jeep and would like to modify it a bit to run off road easier. It has been recommended that I go no higher than 4" as this is also my daily driver. My question concerns the many different brands of suspension lifts out there. I know all will have a different opinion, and I look forward to those, but in general, how do I know what is a "good" brand of lift?

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Unread 11-19-2011, 09:33 PM   #2
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Depends, how much are you willing to spend on just the lift?
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Unread 11-19-2011, 09:38 PM   #3
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Ok read the faq
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Unread 11-19-2011, 10:22 PM   #4
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There is hardcore stuff and you will pay for it but only once.
The simple stuff ultimately is temporary unless you keep it on the streets.

AVOID... Control arms that are made of tubing and have poly or rubber bushings. They will claim to be stronger but bind up cause they're solid. Stock CAs are made to twist so they offer less binding.

Do not go 4" unless you have the budget for it. Slip Yoke Eliminator ( SYE ), CV driveshaft, Adjustable track bars, Longer brake lines, Bump stop extensions, Sway bar extended links, Springs, Shocks, and the bigger tires that you installed the lift for. Ultimately all these will need to be done at the same time. So, don't plan on starting the build on Friday night and then driving to work on Monday.
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Unread 11-19-2011, 10:26 PM   #5
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There is hardcore stuff and you will pay for it but only once.
The simple stuff ultimately is temporary unless you keep it on the streets.

AVOID... Control arms that are made of tubing and have poly or rubber bushings. They will claim to be stronger but bind up cause they're solid. Stock CAs are made to twist so they offer less binding.

Do not go 4" unless you have the budget for it. Slip Yoke Eliminator ( SYE ), CV driveshaft, Adjustable track bars, Longer brake lines, Bump stop extensions, Sway bar extended links, Springs, Shocks, and the bigger tires that you installed the lift for. Ultimately all these will need to be done at the same time. So, don't plan on starting the build on Friday night and then driving to work on Monday.
Ah, the things they don't mention when talking lifts. I know nothing of all of the modifications that must go along with, so thank you for this.

As far as budget, I don't have an unlimited budget for top of the line gear, but I can afford to save up for quality parts.
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Unread 11-20-2011, 02:23 AM   #6
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Well here is one of the best lifts out there.

http://shop.savvyoffroad.com/product...2&categoryId=2

I have also heard Zone Offroad to have quality lifts for their price.

http://zoneoffroad.com/prod-display?...005&dca=1&dsv=
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Unread 11-20-2011, 02:30 AM   #7
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Plenty of people are out there running a 4" lift and do not have an SYE, CV driveshafts and just relocate the track bars as the instructions tell them to do. Is this the best setup? Probably not, but a lot depends on what you are planning on doing with your Jeep. It is really when you go over the 4" mark that you start running into a lot more issues. Depending on what type of offroading you want to do and what size tires you want to run, you may be fine with just a budget boost lift, all depends on where you want to go with this.
Since it hasn't been said yet, if you go big with the tires everything else needs upgrading such as brakes, steering and the list goes on and on.
So...I would ask, what type of offroading do you want to do and do you have a tire size in mind?
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Zone 4.25" combo(3" SL/1.25"BL/1"MML) lift.Rides very good.Stock control arms work fine and are flexy and cheap to replace if you bend one.
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Unread 11-20-2011, 10:01 AM   #9
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Plenty of people are out there running a 4" lift and do not have an SYE, CV driveshafts and just relocate the track bars as the instructions tell them to do.
What do trackbars have to do with whether you need a SYE/CV driveshaft? Do you perhaps mean people do a TC drop?
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Unread 11-20-2011, 10:56 AM   #10
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What do trackbars have to do with whether you need a SYE/CV driveshaft? Do you perhaps mean people do a TC drop?
I think he was just pointing out cheaper things you can do to run a 4" lift,like no SYE and no adjustable track bars.
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Unread 11-20-2011, 11:53 AM   #11
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Yes, I was referring to the other post that was talking about you needed adjustable track bars. Cheaper ways for the 4" lifts as well as the TC case drop to help with drive angles. Most of the 4" short arm kits come with everything you need to run them, then there are "upgrades" to make them better.
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Unread 11-20-2011, 06:20 PM   #12
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Plenty of people are out there running a 4" lift and do not have an SYE, CV driveshafts and just relocate the track bars as the instructions tell them to do. Is this the best setup? Probably not, but a lot depends on what you are planning on doing with your Jeep. It is really when you go over the 4" mark that you start running into a lot more issues. Depending on what type of offroading you want to do and what size tires you want to run, you may be fine with just a budget boost lift, all depends on where you want to go with this.
Since it hasn't been said yet, if you go big with the tires everything else needs upgrading such as brakes, steering and the list goes on and on.
So...I would ask, what type of offroading do you want to do and do you have a tire size in mind?
After some discussion with some of the jeep club members here, I have decided on 33" tires. This jeep is also my daily driver, and I don't want to go way overboard. However, I do like to offroad a bit, nothing extreme, but I did learn on my first off road trip Saturday that a lift is going to be a must. We were running on a trail they rated at a 3, and it wasn't a bad run in all stock, however I did conclude that a lift would have helped me in some areas.
I have started a list of things to do, first of which is going to be sway bar disconnects.
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Unread 11-20-2011, 06:48 PM   #13
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One more thing, I have been looking at kits with shocks vs without. Is this advisable to do shocks with the lift, or is it unnecessary?
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If you lift the Jeep you will need to buy new shocks.
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Unread 11-20-2011, 07:53 PM   #15
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Another thing to consider is that if you go with a 4" lift kit and do not do SYE it will most likely come with a transfer case drop bracket. To me, this kind of defeats the purpose. The thing you will be needing the most is ground clearance (unless you are wanting to play in the mud) and the transfer case skid hits a lot (or it did on mine with break over's), so you do a 4" lift and then you drop the TC skid down an inch so you have only gained 3" of belly clearance but opened up a lot of other possible issues. If I am remembering correctly on a lift like the Zone one boogieman mentioned you would not need to deal with the TC drop or a lot of the other possible issues from running a 4" SL and would be plenty of lift for running 33" tires.
Disconnects are nice, but if you have the money to spend, check into the Currie antirock. I had JKS quick disconnects on mine when I got it, but ended up going to the Currie and could not have been happier with that purchase. I hated having to try and hook back up after getting the links all muddy and a lot of times I didn't unhook because I didn't think I would need to and then ended up having to unhook with everything covered in mud. With the Currie you just go and don't worry about it, that was one of my favorite mods I did to the Jeep.
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