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Unread 12-03-2008, 12:26 PM   #16
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is that a "no slip" or a "lock rite" ? in the write up you called it both...or is there a difference?

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Unread 12-03-2008, 12:30 PM   #17
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Soooo.. i have a dana 35 non- c clip axle and im doin this, will i have to pull the carrier? i have stock gears. also its in the rear (DANA 35)
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Unread 12-03-2008, 01:09 PM   #18
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Non c-clip or not, I would not install a locker into your Dana 35c. That it's not a c-clip design (89 and older Dana 35c axles do not use c-clips) doesn't make the 27 spline axle shafts any stronger and they are what breaks once a locker is installed.
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Unread 12-03-2008, 01:16 PM   #19
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Non c-clip or not, I would not install a locker into your older model Dana 35c. That it's not a c-clip design doesn't make the 27 spline axle shafts any stronger and they are what breaks once a locker is installed.

SO even driving carefully its still gonna break my shafts?? how about locking the front dana 30?? which is better to lock first front or rear? PS i just have a dana 35 not a dana 35c
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Unread 12-03-2008, 01:20 PM   #20
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SO even driving carefully its still gonna break my shafts?? how about locking the front dana 30?? which is better to lock first front or rear? PS i just have a dana 35 not a dana 35c
Even though it doesn't have c-clips, it is still a Dana 35c. The 'c' stands for custom, not c-clip.

And yes, you can eventually expect a broken axleshaft once you lock your Dana 35c even if you drive carefully. They're just not up to being locked. I tried that years ago when I used to have a Dana 35c and it lasted all of six weeks before it grenaded.

Locking your front Dana 30 is fine, it only sees about 50% of the stress the rear axle does and it holds up fine to a locker until you start doing tougher trails with about the 35" tire size.
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Unread 12-03-2008, 01:26 PM   #21
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Even though it doesn't have c-clips, it is still a Dana 35c. The 'c' stands for custom, not c-clip.

And yes, you can eventually expect a broken axleshaft once you lock your Dana 35c even if you drive carefully. They're just not up to being locked. I tried that years ago when I used to have a Dana 35c and it lasted all of six weeks before it grenaded.

Locking your front Dana 30 is fine, it only sees about 50% of the stress the rear axle does and it holds up fine to a locker until you start doing tougher trails with about the 35" tire size.

I kno the c is for custom, mine isnt custom its factory not from dana itself, and also i only have 235/75/15 tires... does that still mean i will have a broken axle shaft in the rear with the locker?
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Unread 12-03-2008, 01:42 PM   #22
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You can take a chance if you like but I've had to help several Jeepers off the trail with broken D35c axleshafts and they were only running 30" tires. I personally wouldn't even consider installing a locker into any stock Dana 35 or Dana 35c axle. The only (!) way to remain reliable is to upgrade it to a Super 35 which uses 30 spline axleshafts but I don't know if they're available for a non c-clip Dana 35. If that is an option, I would call and talk with someone at Superior Axle who makes the Super 35 kit and see if they have something that would work for your 27 spline axle to beef it up to 30 splines.
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Unread 12-03-2008, 01:47 PM   #23
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You can take a chance if you like but I've had to help several Jeepers off the trail with broken D35c axleshafts and they were only running 30" tires. I personally wouldn't even consider installing a locker into any stock Dana 35 or Dana 35c axle. The only (!) way to remain reliable is to upgrade it to a Super 35 which uses 30 spline axleshafts but I don't know if they're available for a non c-clip Dana 35. If that is an option, I would call and talk with someone at Superior Axle who makes the Super 35 kit and see if they have something that would work for your 27 spline axle to beef it up to 30 splines.
IDK i think i will chance it. If it beaks thats just all the sooner i will get my dana 44 but thanks for the tips!!
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Don't say you weren't warned against it. It WILL break.
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Unread 12-16-2008, 03:16 PM   #25
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Two questions

Is this the type of install that can be tackled by someone with minimal experience?
Does the ring gear need to be adjusted once it is reinstalled?

I only ask because it seems simple and straight forward but I wouldn't want to mess with it if any shimming of other finite adjustments are necessary. I leave that work to a professional.
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Unread 12-16-2008, 03:23 PM   #26
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Love the powertrax. Had it installed by a local shop when my bearings went out (xj). QUESTION: For a couple of years I would hear clicking when turning and once in a while a loud BANG! Then last month I heard the mother of all bangs from the rear and since then it's been quiet? Still works, Anyone had these problems?
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I have had several lockers in the past, Detroit, Aussie, Auburn, and now Powertrax.
Since you are in Michigan, how did the Powertrax do in the snow and ice? I want to add one to my Dana 30 front but I'm not going to do it if during the winter the Jeep is a hazard. For almost six months of the year my driveway is icy...
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Since you are in Michigan, how did the Powertrax do in the snow and ice? I want to add one to my Dana 30 front but I'm not going to do it if during the winter the Jeep is a hazard. For almost six months of the year my driveway is icy...
x2... I am in Michigan and would like to know if the front end slides out too.
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Unread 12-02-2009, 09:18 PM   #29
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Since this was brought back from the dead I'll answer one of the questions in this thread. You do not have to remove the carrier to install the No Slip, in fact, for axles with C-clips you will actually need to install the locker with the carrier in the vehicle or at least I did when installing it into my Ford 8.8.
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Unread 12-13-2009, 02:35 AM   #30
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resurrecting a fine thread! this is good.... but could anybody answered the previously asked question: what should someone with no experience with gears be aware of? We all gotta learn sooner or later and first time isnt always detrimental...

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