[00blasterResto]

ok so i got this 01 sahara its got the 4.0 any way the power steering pump pulley was all broke up, the jeep ran fine with it but i figured better change that puppy so i went to auto zone and got a puller installer and pulled it off relitivly trouble free, so I went to put the new one on and the nightmare started i been through 3 pullys now "they are plastic" i bent the screw thing on the tool from auto zone so i got one from advanced same **** but ended up rippin about 3/8" of threads out in the pump ,,, i can chase those out and i am pretty resourceful i have alot of tools and im not big on cheap tools may have partially been my problem but this thing was super hard goin on and worst of all i cant get it to go on straight right now i have one half on there and if i spin it you can tell it is not on the shaft straight, i have the radiator out and have fairly easy access i did have no grill on but now i do, any advice, any one dose this before???
thanx Will

[jeepnmike]

periods man......periods.

[00blasterResto]

Sorry Did'nt know that my punctuation affected the power steering pulley on my jeep or a tech's ability to help. I'll keep that in mind.=) besides my lack of periods, dose any one have any input on the subject at hand?
thank you, Will

[mrblaine]

Originally Posted by 00blasterResto

ok so i got this 01 sahara its got the 4.0 any way the power steering pump pulley was all broke up, the jeep ran fine with it but i figured better change that puppy

Hello fellow Jeep owners. I was hoping someone could help with a problem I'm having with my Sahara. (all Saharas have the 4.0)

The pulley on the Power Steering Pump was a bit damaged, so I decided to swap it out.

so i went to auto zone and got a puller installer and pulled it off relitivly trouble free, so I went to put the new one on and the nightmare started i been through 3 pullys now "they are plastic" i bent the screw thing on the tool from auto zone so i got one from advanced same ****

The easiest way to do this seemed to be to borrow the installation tool from AutoZone and it worked well for the removal part of this chore. My troubles started when I went to reinstall the plastic pulley.

I seem to be incapable of operating a simple tool and even though the pulley is plastic, it seems to be ruining the tool. I have managed to spread my ineptitude to another parts store by borrowing one of their tools with the same results.

but ended up rippin about 3/8" of threads out in the pump ,,, i can chase those out and i am pretty resourceful i have alot of tools and im not big on cheap tools

My failings with this simple tool have now progressed to the point that I have managed to ruin some threads in the pump shaft. I wish my resourcefulness also included pulley installation. I don't mind owning good tools and have no issue purchasing them regardless of price, but that doesn't apply to a good pulley installer.

may have partially been my problem but this thing was super hard goin on and worst of all i cant get it to go on straight right now i have one half on there and if i spin it you can tell it is not on the shaft straight, i have the radiator out and have fairly easy access i did have no grill on but now i do, any advice, any one dose this before???
thanx Will

If I had thought to remove the pump so I could have used a vise to hold it in place while I tinkered with the pulley instead of removing the radiator, I suspect I may have been able to overcome a few obstacles that have stymied my efforts so far.


Here's my advice now that I've partially translated this using my gibberish to English translator.

You've already messed up three pulleys and one pump trying to do it in the vehicle.

Go buy an OTC brand puller/installer, locate a steel pulley (they make them) pull the pump, and do it in a vise.

[00blasterResto]

While I appreciate your translator, I guess I should have put it into Lamens terms for you guys. the pulleys run me around $8 and get broke out of frustration. A good remover/installer "snap on" "mac" proply cost a couple hundred dollars, the cheap one cost $50 I try to evaluate my situation. I would rather put that money into the jeep at the moment. The pump is not ruined the pump is fine. The threads from the cheep bolt broke off in there, hens why I said they could be chased "and/or cleaned".
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"I have the radiator out and have fairly easy access I did have no grill on but now I do"
I guess I did'nt think it mattered much to you for my subject, but I put a new front end on my jeep. The pump is held in there nice and tight and faced right at you. I am not rediculous and I hope common sense would tell you that I would not pull the front end off of my jeep for a power steering pump pulley.
I appreciate your advise on the tool and pulley, this is more like the Info. I was lookin for.

I don't mean to be rude but I am a well known member of an ATV forum. I have never had a problem with people acting rediculous, or rather than socializling about the jeeps and subject at hand, you guys are more worried about critiquing my typeing and or what you may assume my plan of exacution was. Stop by the blasterforum and take a second to note people helping people as well as shooting the "crap"
I figured that some "jeep people" may have some good advice, but if I gotta worrie about my typeing and rude folks I think seeing as I know a ton of them, I will just stick to asking real Mechanics about my issues.
plenty said.
thanx Will

[bige2533]

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Get the pump out and try working on it. Are you using the tool to install the pulley or the bolt that come with it? For installing, I had better luck with the bolt.

Originally Posted by mrblaine

You've already messed up three pulleys and one pump trying to do it in the vehicle.

Go buy an OTC brand puller/installer, locate a steel pulley (they make them) pull the pump, and do it in a vise.

[Jerry Bransford]

Some may worry excessively about punctuation and grammar but look at it from another point of view. We often get long rambling posts with no punctuation, periods, commas, or are otherwise worded so poorly that it's very difficult to understand them. While it could be thought of rude to comment on someone's grammar or punctuation, it's just as rude for people to not even try to take the trouble to be clear in what they're asking so people can easily understand what they're saying.

So it goes both ways. How to solve the issue? People need to have the courtesy of slowing down and composing what they write in at least an easily understandable way so it doesn't require multiple passes of reading it to figure out their point. Granted, it shouldn't have to be spell-checked or written with perfect grammar but at least use a little care in how it is worded and/or punctuated so it can be easily understood.

There's a big difference between something written so it can be easily understood yet grammatically imperfect, and something written with so little care that it takes a lot of effort to simply understand it. Again... it goes both ways.

[FLATFENDER54]

I find this forum very helpful. After all the trouble your having id remove the pump and get it on a bench or in a vise if you can

[mrblaine]

Originally Posted by 00blasterResto

While I appreciate your translator, I guess I should have put it into Lamens terms for you guys. the pulleys run me around $8 and get broke out of frustration. A good remover/installer "snap on" "mac" proply cost a couple hundred dollars, the cheap one cost $50 I try to evaluate my situation.

http://www.toolking.com/otc(divisionofspxcorp.)_otc4530.aspx

[00blasterResto]

I appreciate all of your advise on the matter at hand. I will pull it off there and if I can get the tool by this weekend I'm gonna try and get it taken care of. I will let you guys know how it goes.
Thanks again, Will

[jeepbus]

My suggestion is to take the Jeep to a QUALIFIED Mechanic.You have already spent way more than it is worth.The pulleys are $15 at the dealer. So your at $45 there,plus gas to get the dang things,and no telling how many hours.It's a 30 minute job tops with the right tools. There comes a time to cut your loses and pay someone to do it right.

[Stu Olson]

Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford

some may worry excessively about punctuation and grammar but look at it from another point of view we often get long rambling posts with no punctuation periods commas or are otherwise worded so poorly that it's very difficult to understand them while it could be thought of rude to comment on someones grammar or punctuation its just as rude for people to not even try to take the trouble to be clear in what theyre asking so people can easily understand what they're saying so it goes both ways how to solve the issue people need to have the courtesy of slowing down and composing what they write in at least an easily understandable way so it doesnt require multiple passes of reading it to figure out their point granted it shouldnt have to be spell checked or written with perfect grammar but at least use a little care in how it is worded and or punctuated so it can be easily understood theres a big difference between something written so it can be easily understood yet grammatically imperfect and something written with so little care that it takes a lot of effort to simply understand it again it goes both ways

Jerry, to better emphasize your point, I tweaked your response just a bit to make it easier for those that prefer that style you refer to.

[tctrjeep]

We had great luck with a pulley remover/installer from Napa Auto Parts. We tried one from Checker and the bolt on that tool broke off in the shaft. It came back out pretty easily and we went to Napa and bought one of the tool kits they sell. Big difference.

Having the right tool for the job will save tons of irritation and money in the long run.

[PFM]

Go with the tools. I put a pulley on a new pump shaft with just a nut and bolt supplied with the new pulley and no vise to hold the new pump. After three hours of cursing, crying, rage, tears, pleading and outright superhuman feats of strength I got the new pulley on the new shaft, but I was emotionally and physically scarred by the ordeal. If I had gone to my house and used my vise and pulley tool, it would have taken me 20 minutes, tops, but I just had to be fat and lazy .