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post #1 of 16 Old 02-09-2007, 10:10 PM Thread Starter
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PLEASE!! Doing RE 4.5" SF tomorrow have 3 quick questions

I have 3 quick questions before starting my lift tomorrow. I would greatly appreciate your responses because I am doing it first thing in the morning. I have a 00' TJ 4.0 and putting on the RE 4.5 SF kit w/ a sye/ TW DS. Here we go.

1. What type of brake fluid do I need for bleeding lines?

2. What type of fluid do I need for the transfer case?

3. The kit did not come w/ a drop pitman arm. I thought that I read it was not necesarry. But RE website says that anything over 3" needs one. But then they do not include one in their kit.

I thank you in advance as I am doing this in the A.M..

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post #2 of 16 Old 02-09-2007, 10:19 PM
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According to the manual any DOT 3 Brake fluid will work.

For the transfer case they recommend Mopar ATF+4 Type 9602 Automatic Transmission Fluid. I would think you could use any brand as long as its the same type and of similar quiality, but I don't know a whole lot about ATF. Did you check the instructions for the SYE kit just in case it requires something else besides the OEM stuff? Whatever it is though you'll need two quarts of it. (only take 1.6 though)

As for the pitman arm, I'm not positive on this but your probobly going to need it. I would think the stock setup has really bad bumpsteer if the linkages are at crazy angles. I would like to know this for sure also as I'm installing the same thing in a couple weeks.

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I did an RE lift with 3.5" springs and it settled at about 4.25", I did not use a new DPA and have no problems.
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My buddies think I will have problems also. I can't believe that it wouldn't come w/ the kit though. Any other suggestions on the DPA? Thank you for all the other info. Hopefully all goes well.
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I used Mobil 1 ATF in the transfer case. Any DOT 3 brake fluid will be fine.

When Stu and some of the others chime in, I'm almost positive that they will tell you to run the FACTORY pitman arm.
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I thought that I heard to run the factory arm but I couldn't remember why. Please explain to me the reason if this is true. My buddies have been telling me I should need it. I understand the steering angle will be changed, and RE claims I need it.
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I run the factory pitman arm and it works fine with my 4" lift. You will get bumpsteer if you use it. The drop arm is good if you are doing a serious lift like above 5" I believe. Try to search it, I know it's been asked before. That's why I didn't use it!!
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You will be fine without the drop pitman arm,, its a very complete kit, they have sold tons, think there would be a huge outcry if it was needed. My steering is just fine, what SYE kit?

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I am running a Teraflex SYE w/ a Tom Wood driveshaft. Hopefully all goes well today. Thank you for your replies.
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We run this kit (RE SF 4.5") without the DPA. We decided to install without the DPA, see how it goes and get one later, if needed. Didn't need it. Neither did a buddy with the same kit (98 Sahara). Now, we're running the ORO GEN-3 U-TURN kit. Best of luck on your install!
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If your 4.5 kit comes with the front track bar with the heim joint at the frame end, you won't need the DPA as the lowered new track bar mount fixes the misalignment more or less. If you don't have the dropped upper track bar mount and you use the DPA the steering will get way worse.
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My buddies think I will have problems also. I can't believe that it wouldn't come w/ the kit though. Any other suggestions on the DPA? Thank you for all the other info. Hopefully all goes well.
A pitman arm from a ZJ (late 90's Grand) is a direct bolt on, and it gives a 2-3in drop. Can be found in wrecking yards or parts stores. Thats what I did on mine. I was in a pinch, needed a new one for a trail ride the following day. Got one from a buddy who went full hydro.

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You do not need a drop pitman arm. Leave yours alone......

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Yep, don't need the pitman. Your steering geometry won't be perfect with the stock arm, but with a lowered one you risk getting really bad bump steer.
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No dropped pitman here...works great for me with roughly 4.25 inches of lift...in fact...little to no bumpsteer at all...and no death wobble,which was a common occurance with my stock suspension!

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