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Unread 05-26-2011, 07:40 AM   #1
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Pitman Arm Tie Rod - How to replacement

So tonight (weather permitting) going to try and replace the tie rod that's connected to the pitman arm. It looks in horrific shape as you can see from the pics. The grease doesn't even stay in there.

Question is how does one remove this? First unscrew the tie rod end from drag link? Then use a puller to seperate the pitman arm and the tie rod end? Or vice versa? Because I don't think a puller will fit over on the top side of the pitman arm to separate the two?



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It's a fairly easy process. Sometimes the ball joint can be a PIA to get out of the pitman arm. Are you replacing the entire drag link or just the ball joint on the end that goes into the pitman arm? If that's all you're replacing it should be really easy. Pull the cotter pin, remove the nut and then smack the drag link up near the pitman arm downward until the ball joint seperates from the pitman arm. Or if you have room smack the ball joint on top where it goes through the pitman arm until it falls out.

If you're replacing the entire drag link, there's just a few more bolts to remove, one from the steering stabilizer, one where it connects to the R/F knuckle and one where it connects to the track bar.
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It's a fairly easy process. Sometimes the ball joint can be a PIA to get out of the pitman arm. Are you replacing the entire drag link or just the ball joint on the end that goes into the pitman arm? If that's all you're replacing it should be really easy. Pull the cotter pin, remove the nut and then smack the drag link up near the pitman arm downward until the ball joint seperates from the pitman arm. Or if you have room smack the ball joint on top where it goes through the pitman arm until it falls out.

If you're replacing the entire drag link, there's just a few more bolts to remove, one from the steering stabilizer, one where it connects to the R/F knuckle and one where it connects to the track bar.
Replacing the tie rod end itself. Not the entire drag link but just like the thing that screws into the drag link.



So smack it out from the pitman arm and then unscrew it from the drag link? I guess I was using the wrong terms and when I was saying tie rod in my previous post i meant drag link.
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See this page for a good description of the parts and names.

http://www.quadratec.com/jeep_knowle...article-48.htm

But yeah, if all you're doing is that ball joint, it'll be easy. But the base of the bolt that goes up through the pitman arm is slightly tapered so it wedges in, so it can be difficult to get out...most likely won't just fall out when you take the nut off. As I said, you'll have to smack it, or the drag link itself for it to pop out.
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See this page for a good description of the parts and names.

http://www.quadratec.com/jeep_knowle...article-48.htm

But yeah, if all you're doing is that ball joint, it'll be easy. But the base of the bolt that goes up through the pitman arm is slightly tapered so it wedges in, so it can be difficult to get out...most likely won't just fall out when you take the nut off. As I said, you'll have to smack it, or the drag link itself for it to pop out.
Yah I saw that picture before on 4x4xplor. I went to dig it up right before you posted that.

Thanks for the info, going to give it a shot tonight.
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Use a PA puller.
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You may want to get an alignment afterward...but don't take that for Gospel...read the writeup on that 4x4xplor page on doing an alignment if you want to do it yourself.
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Use a PA puller.
Yeah, a pitman arm puller on top of it will work well to push the ball joint out if you have one. I actually don't have one, so I used the hammer smack method
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Yeah, a pitman arm puller on top of it will work well to push the ball joint out if you have one. I actually don't have one, so I used the hammer smack method
A puller will fit in there upside down? I didn't think there was enough room up in there to put one.

Do have one and I guess i'll give that a try also.
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A puller will fit in there upside down? I didn't think there was enough room up in there to put on
That was my concern too...I guess it's worth a try.
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My pitman arm puller was too big to get in and get a good hold. Just smack the side of the pitman arm where the tie rod end tapered shaft goes thru.
FYI: it's a tie rod end, not a ball joint.
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My pitman arm puller was too big to get in and get a good hold. Just smack the side of the pitman arm where the tie rod end tapered shaft goes thru.
Tap the side of the pitman arm? Why are the other two saying to tap the ball joint thread at the top or the actual tie rod end?
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Tap the side of the pitman arm? Why are the other two saying to tap the ball joint thread at the top or the actual tie rod end?
Try the other two ways, when that doesn't work, try what I said. It will fall right out.
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It's a tie rod...you're correct. I tend to call it a ball joint because there's a ball joint in the end of it.

You can hit either spot. If you're disassembling your suspension and re-using it all then I wouldn't suggest smacking the top of the ball joint bolt/thread...but since you're replacing it, there's no concern of boogering up the threads. To me it seemed to help by getting downward force on the end of the tie rod/ball joint itself. But whatever works for you. Again, it doesn't matter if some damage ocurrs to the tie rod that's coming out since it's being replaced anyway.
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It's a fairly easy process. Sometimes the ball joint can be a PIA to get out of the pitman arm. Are you replacing the entire drag link or just the ball joint on the end that goes into the pitman arm? If that's all you're replacing it should be really easy. Pull the cotter pin, remove the nut and then smack the drag link up near the pitman arm downward until the ball joint seperates from the pitman arm. Or if you have room smack the ball joint on top where it goes through the pitman arm until it falls out.

If you're replacing the entire drag link, there's just a few more bolts to remove, one from the steering stabilizer, one where it connects to the R/F knuckle and one where it connects to the track bar.
Please tell us where the drag link is connected to the track bar.
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